NOOOOO FICTIONAL HALF-FISH WOMEN CAN'T BE POLITICALLY COLORED IT WOULDNT BE HISTORICALLY ACCURATE LIKE THE FICTION IN THE WITCHERINO IS! :wojak-nooo:

  • Fartbutt420 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    All this outrage drowning out the real issue here - there's and actress called Halle Bailey? That sounds way too close to Halle Berry?? Did the Hollywood PR guys not focus test this??? It's confusing????

    • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Seriously this poor young actor is getting no credit because I saw two separate articles saying it was Halle Berry.

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      All this outrage drowning out the real issue here...

      I disagree.

      I think the real outrage is - how come she doesn't drown when she's singing underwater?

      • ssjmarx [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        lmao same, I was thinking she was way too old to play Ariel who is supposed to be a teenager

        • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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          2 years ago

          I thought that too but they do have Ryan Reynolds doing ken in that Barbie film so I thought maybe haha

    • Lussy [any]
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      2 years ago

      Wait, I just realized it’s not actually Halle Berry in the movie.

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      If you sound out her name in Chinese, Google assumes you mean Halle Berry. Appparently the chosen convention is to spell and pronounce Bailey's first name as "hayley" or "hǎili" which is just not the pronunciation, it should be identical to the pronunciation of Halle Berry's first name, but it isn't.

      it's all very confusing

      Coincidence??

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I'm pretty sure it will be a terrible souless film because capitalism, but that fact has little to do with Halle Bailey who looks...pretty good? Like she's genuinely well cast for the role.

    I'm not a fan of them taking the score in a pop direction but then I hate the score of all the live action remakes.

    It'll be fine, and then everyone will forget it like they did all the other live action remakes.

    If the chuds just ignored these films they'd not get half the publicity they do, to the extent the cynical marketer in me thinks there's a few Junior Marketing Associates deliberately posting on 4chan to stir this shit up.

  • HogWild [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    I cannot even begin to describe the mix of sadness and disgust that is washing over my skin, down my arms, spine and legs, when I have to encounter these kind of brainworms in the wild.

    Nothing but hate, hate, hate with these people.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      No one fights the culture wars with more singleminded ferocity and obsession than the chud that claims that the problem is that everything is too political these days. :us-foreign-policy:

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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    2 years ago

    i fucking hate these people more than anything because the movie will be bad, of course the movie will be bad, but it would be bad if they got a white to play ariel too. these stupid racist hogs will swallow endless quantities of sewage as long as it doesn't challenge their sense of racial superiority.

    edit: never mind, they couldn't find a single racist tweet to put in the article. it's literally just people complaining about different petty shit about a movie that is going to suck no matter what. I liked Allegra Frank's work at Polygon but this is really cookiecutter outrage bait.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      never mind, they couldn’t find a single racist tweet to put in the article.

      I'm convinced it's Disney PR to start a "backlash to the backlash", and the machine is so on autopilot that they don't bother digging around for the backlash to begin with.

  • Bay_of_Piggies [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I'm not bothered, obviously. But I do wonder why characters that were previously red headed are being cast as black? Maybe I'm incorrect, but it's a trend I've noticed.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      I don't know the answer to that either, except that perhaps to :lmayo: being red haired was previously seen as sufficiently exotic for the audience to :awooga: over without being too immoral. :us-foreign-policy:

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          Yeah, but space people with green blood and magic telepathy fingers were also politically skinned before and that was also unacceptable on Star Trek all the way back in the 90s. :frothingfash:

    • Rem [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Idk, I've seen chuds say that but it feels like confirmation bias

    • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      The previously blonde fairy godmother in the Pinocchio remake is also black :shrug-outta-hecks:

      A lot of fictional characters just have red hair because it looks visually striking

    • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      cynically its because making a blond into a black character would be too much for the execs.

    • TankBombadil [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Not trying to call you out, but what other characters has this happened for? Starfire in the Titans?

      • Bay_of_Piggies [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Mary Jane in Spider-Man? I guess it isn't a lot, it just stands out to me because there are generally few redheaded characters and I watched The Little Mermaid, Teen Titans and the Sam Raimi Spider-Man films a lot as kid.

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    real talk why do we keep injecting black actors into european mythos stuff while not exploring african mythos at all? i wanna see cool shit from other places :deeper-sadness:

    • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      :capitalist-woke: because hwite people don't know about those and new things are scary and (probably) don't sell, so let's just make a sure thing but woke instead :eco-porky:

      • kristina [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        just gonna keep doing 98th rendition of how the west views egypt while ignoring the other 97% of africa

    • TankBombadil [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      There's this The Woman King movie coming out at least, but I think that's more historical than mythological.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Jesus said "Thou" and "Thee" in the King's English, the ancient holy king known as King James. :grillman:

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      :soypoint-1: :peterson-pill-dinner: :soypoint-2:

  • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Way too many people who'd never have given this movie a second thought (let alone a first thought) if the character had been white being upset about the character being black. People who'd never watch it still want the movie they'll never watch to have a white actress. Disney has literally nothing to gain by giving these people, who would never spend their money on a little mermaid movie, any attention.

    Also reminds me of when TheQuartering was complaining about the new She-ra and he admitted he hadn't actually watched the original series because it was aimed at girls. THEN WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT IT?!

    The sad thing is this movie will probably be terrible anyway, because honestly Disney's remakes have all been bad so far (except movies that while kind of being remakes, were ones that went their own way like Maleficent. I liked Maleficent); and the little trash for brains complainers will jump on 'wokeness' being the reason the movie failed. The Aladdin remake was absolutely atrocious and that one was 'historically accurate'.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Maleficent and Cinderella are probably the only two remakes I actually enjoyed.

  • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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    2 years ago

    HISTORICALLY ACCURATE LIKE THE FICTION IN THE WITCHERINO IS

    Having war flashbacks to listening to my brother drone on about BLACK ELVES in the Netflix Witcher

    :doomer: :NOOOOO:

  • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    man I know the racists are dumb for hating this. You dont have to explain that to me, they are dumb babies.

    But its so cynical. Make the mermaid black and then beat your vfx department and get a billion dollars. Free publicity, youre a racist if you dont see this movie!! Im just exhausted by the era if politics as consumption.

  • betelgeuse [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    "We have to uphold fictional racism based on real racism in order to be historically accurate" will never not be a terrible argument. A lot of white characters are white because the default was white. It has nothing to do with historical demographics or anything.

    As always, what they're really mad at is the very thing they love which is capitalism. Capitalism is the reason why the default was white and it's also the reason why there is now "forced" diversity. They have white people's money, now they want to go after everyone else. That means appealing to other kinds of people. Communism would also produce diversity in media, but for entirely different reasons.

    Under communism (with the proper intersectionality) wouldn't have had a white default to begin with. You would have already had a variety of cultural stories in the mainstream because there wouldn't have been a profit-motive for making everyone white. Other ideas would have been able to come to the surface because people could create without having to worry about market shares.

    These companies enforced the racial bias its now trying to solve. Which is exactly why they won't be able to solve it by continuing to do business. It's just going to create this kind of culture war stuff because they refuse to address the historical problem and solve it in a way that will actually work. It's still about profit, just not profit from whitey.

  • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    While I'm sure there's a racist reaction, I wouldn't be surprised if it's Disney's strategy to amplify the most ugly takes in order to drown out criticism. I saw a guy get repeatedly called racist by Disney stans for pointing out that a particular scene from the trailer was bland!

  • RonJeremyCorbyn [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    "leftists", avoid the deliberate courting of cultural controversy, engineered by corporate power to boost engagement, for the latest unveiling of insipid product of the the culture industry, uh, "challenge level impossible."