thats it. They're still so seething about how it 'destroyed the canon' or whatever. Its got to be some of the most weird form of movie brain worms that they just hated that movie instead of Revenge of Skywalker or whatever it was called, which was one of the worst movies of all time.
Best part of the last jedi, is when Gambo comes out and gets it done
Sorry I was too excited to talk about Gambo and when he Gambo'd the throne. Did you know there are older references to Gambo than the Gambo comics? In the 37th issue of Dr. Strange: Medicine Woman there's a short cameo by Gambo. He's the patron at the bar with the devil-may-care attitude speculating aloud the exact number of thrones.
I always hear that, but like there wasn't much left to build on imo. Same is true of TFA too, imo, so I wouldn't blame Johnson completely.
Yeah I mean I think all the sequels/prequels are shit, but I'm probably not the target audience
Last Jedi was a very flawed gem, but unfortunately almost everything good about Last Jedi was the story it intended to lead up to.
Rise of Skywalker was not just a bad movie, it made the previous movie bad too.
I watched a fan edit that snipped out 75% of the casino subplot and some of the more dragging pacing and honestly it was fine. Fun. The Luke-Kylo-Rey dynamic was unironically interesting and engaging. The extremely slow escape sequence and Disney mandating that Poe and Finn couldn't spend more than 2 minutes on screen together brought it down a little, but other than that it was fun.
Edit: that being said my favorite Star Wars movie was Rogue One (lol) so my onion probably doesn't mean much.
There were only two good movies, ever. I couldn't watch rise of skywalker crossfaded. I don't expect any more good movies or TV shows until if we survive world war 3 and global warming. You can pry my trashy warhammer fantasy novels from my cold dead hands
the one that was just a remake of the original was fine if a bit uninspired
the second one was weird and didnt make a lot of sense but it had some cool visuals which is nice
i didnt watch the third one cos i was kinda over it
i cant remember what any of them were called
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I really didn't enjoy any of the sequels, but I was almost 40 when The Force Awakens came out, so I got over it and moved on with my life.
I walked out of the theater with a new freedom I had never experienced, my whole life. I no longer gave a fuck. I had held out hope since childhood. But none of it mattered or would ever matter again. I was truly free.
this is my experience after the 1999 midnight premier of phantom penance
you have NO idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person!
I don't ever want to hear about this movie again in my life :stalin-stressed: why won't the whiny nerds stop talking about it
The only character to be in every single Star Wars movie (he’s snoke and you know it)
The scene where Snoke gets got is an almost word for word call back to the scene in Jedi where Palpatine is tempting Luke.
I remember the guy sitting next to me in the theater saying "the fuck is this shit?" when Luke died. I laughed. Then he looked at me for a second before going right back to his popcorn.
Luke's mom died from being too sad. Dying for no reason runs in his blood, as does killing younglings with a lightsaber.
He doesn't die. He becomes one with the force. Same as Yoda and Obiwan.
I am not saying that that was good storytelling, but I bet you did not expect that, and in the end, that's what counts.
of course, the only thing that matters in making a good story is the subversion of expectations.
Okay but how crazy would it have been if during the scene on the salt planet an asteroid hit the planet and killed everyone I bet you wouldn't have expected that at all
there also just straight up isnt new shit to get obsessed with anymore. That is the only part of culture, when Star Wars came out it wasnt competing with billion dollar legacy IPs from mega corps. It was just a movie. Combine that with the general worsening of everythign and there ya go
You're still seeing that because discourse around TLJ is more algorithmically-friendly than discourse about RoS. TLJ was the first Star Wars to be truly awful, there were actual defenders to argue against, and it became a way to virtue signal that you were a gamergate-style anti-feminist. Meanwhile, a lot of people I know just didn't watch RoS after TLJ, and of those who did, literally everyone I've ever spoken to hates RoS and agrees it is worse, so there's not much to talk about.
A lot of people would argue the phantom menace was the first truly awful star wars movie.
...not me of course. I was on the other side of that one (also I'm right don't @me :p) but let's not pretend like they weren't polarizing on release.
There is something to be said about that one though. Like the prequels there's actual discourse around the legacy of last Jedi....but not many defenders for rise of Skywalker.
phatom menace was good because it came out when i was 7 and it had jar jar step in the poo poo
Lol, I can't believe I entirely forgot about the prequels!
I'll amend my claim: TLJ was the first truly awful Star Wars to come out during the age of modern social media. There almost certainly was discourse around the prequels, but the number of people getting involved in flame wars on the 1999-era internet would be much lower.
the number of people getting involved in flame wars on the 1999-era internet would be much lower.
:chomsky-yes-honey: i was there kid, the internet in 1999 was nothing but people getting into prequel flamewars
but yeah ive softened on the prequels over time, at least they failed in a funny way, and cos lucas was trying to do something kinda interesting that he just had far too little talent and far too much ego to pull off
Most importantly, back when the prequels came out the discourse was mostly about George Lucas being a hack fraud and not just another front in the right-wing culture wars
It was less concretely defined especially in the phantom menace era...but by revenge of this sith I would argue you could absolutely see the formations of proto chuds getting upset at how Lucas was injecting anti bush politics into star wars.
Oh for sure. To be clear: as a prequel apologist I do not mean that the prequels politics were less concretely defined in phantom menace...just that the online discourse around them and the political backlash against them at the time was less concretely defined.
The critique of the politics of the phantom menace on release was mainly that they were boring. It was aotc and rots where, online at least, you started to see the libertarians rearing their ugly heads complaining about how star wars was about escapism and how they were annoyed at how Lucas was shoe horning his politics in.
I genuinely do wonder, if the Internet had been around in 1977, how that would have played out. Been years since I've seen them but there were early conversations on like darpa net or some shit someone fished out once about ROTJ that were kind of errie in how familiar they read.
Much lower in population certainly...although I'd argue much louder. You had to be a born and bread poster and super passionate star ward in the late 90s if you sought out and got into prequel flame wars!
the prequels are bad, the sequels are bad.
long live the boo- oh wait they threw out the baby with the bathwate and then burned it in effigy (luke's line "did you even read them?" yes, yes I did read them)
it's the weakest original, sure but it's not the unhinged unfiltered lucas ess of the prequels or the brain rot of the mismanaged jj abrams trash sequels
I sat down and watched the fan restored versions of the original three movies some years ago and the third one was such a letdown and a massive step down in quality. While the entire series is obviously aimed at kids and adolescents, its tone felt like a cheap TV special aimed at first graders. Aside from a few fun special effects sequences and the character of the Emperor it just kind of sucked from top to bottom.
In terms of overall quality I'd honestly rank the first sequel movie above it
TLJ was good tho! TLJ was the last Hollywood blockbuster to have any redeeming quality at all imo
TLJ was the first Star Wars to be truly awful
The Phantom Menace is right there.
I like how, if you listen to the True Fans, there has not been a good Star Wars movie for 40 years. At a certain point you just gotta give up man.
Star Wars fans 🤝 Sonic the Hedgehog fans
The Mandalorian 🤝 Sonic Mania
