1600 USD ($2135 CAD where I live). Remember how crypto crash was supposed to make card prices go down?
People acted like I was ridiculous for saying GPU prices were never gonna come down. Once they realize they can charge X they will definitely charge X.
edit: currently reddit and everyone is like "BUY GPUS NOW ITS SO CHEAP OMG" I could sell the 2070 I bought 2 years ago for 20 dollars more than I paid.
Well, I am sure the producers would try to keep prices higher to get some extra profits. I think the main thing is that everyone keeps forgetting we are still in a chip shortage. That is part of the extra impetus for China's goal of producing domestic CPU/GPU/CMOS chips besides the national security/self-sufficiency aspect.
The chip shortage is never going to "end" and these prices are the new normal IMO. Even if it does end and there are no more political / logistical issues the companies will never accept less than they are already accustomed to making. The cat is too far out of the bag without some kind of regulation.
edit: domestically produced chinese alternatives is the solution - but I would expect western govts to ban their imports if they got overly competitive like Huawei
Yea I noticed that - I double checked how much I paid for my 980ti new and it was ~£350. Any 80ti's now are at least double that
Once they realize they can charge X they will definitely charge X.
Until the market dries up and they can't charge that anymore.
I literally don't understand who buys these. You can literally buy all the consoles for way less than that
Very very few people actually need this for work, it's basically only if you're doing fuckloads of graphics rendering without access to a render farm
20-year-olds who just got their first couple paychecks and finally want to build the best PC they can.
pc that costs like 10k can run games slightly better than a console that costs $600 tho
(or at least i think that's the logic, idk i hate video games)
Back in around 2015 PC gaming was cheaper for better performance at literally every stage.
It's still actually cheaper despite all the bullshit inflated prices, it's just got a higher startup cost. Console gaming is so goddamn expensive over time where PC isn't.
Yeah this. I still believe it is better than consoles but they realized they can squeeze a lot of blood out of high end PC components. PC gamers need to stop being in denial that they're getting gouged especially at the top end.
A high-spec PC will be substantially more computationally powerful than a console, but 99% of games end up being built for the lowest common denominator anyways.
Yeah, the 3090 came out two years ago so if you got one then, a 4090 is really only ~$70/mo. If that's your only hobby, that's not bad. I have friends that spend way more than that on weed.
Very few people actually upgrade every gen though, so its more like a new rig every 5 years for the people splurging
Agreed. That's what I do. My last card was a 780 until it died. Now I'm on a hand-me-down 1070.
Gaming isn't the only gpu application, esp. as gpu compute workloads are on the rise. Also, if the top end is jacked up that means the low end is also jacked up, so even if you don't want a top end card you are still forced to pay inflated prices.
Yeah, gamers on these cards are dumb. This is a workstation card for doing AI development and raytraced rendering.
Nvidia releases workstation cards already. These are marketed toward gamers
Yeah, but workstation cards are ridiculously overpriced. We use consumer grade cards in ours for running AutoCAD and ArcGIS
These are definitely marketed towards gamer tho, it's just that they do have use in workstations that aren't constantly rendering and just need a GPU for data processing or rendering large drawings with anti aliasing.
Buying top tier GPUs is absolutely silly unless you need it for work, and most of the people who say they need it for work don't really. If you're not waiting on renders for extended periods of time or doing AI stuff or whatever then you don't need it.
If you're playing on a console you usually either have to jail break it and probably lose network connectivity or you have to buy all the games.
Yeah I had meant to add the caveat that I would be hard pressed to throw down that much money for a computer part, but piracy is the biggest plus for me.
China's going to start making GPUs and Westoids are going to be booing it not realizing that that's how we can ever afford anything.
From what I recall, Nvidia is deliberately burning through their 3000 series cards so there is little inventory left. I can't afford a 3080 right now so here's hoping they're in stock in a few months
My friend recently got a 3080ti for less than $600. Prices are only going to go down on them as the 4080s come out, you can probably get a good deal on one from somebody who is upgrading. Once the ‘budget’ 40 series comes out, that should further push down the price of the 3060.
Shouldnt a 3080 be more than enough for the coming years ?
I have a GTX 980 that is still gaming after 8 years. I'm pretty sure a 3080 will go for like a decade.
Yes. I usually upgrade my GPU every 5-8 years and it's fine. It slows down a bit near the end, especially if you get a higher resolution monitor. You really don't need to play everything at 4K 60 fps ultra settings, and it gives you an excuse to enjoy more indie games (which are better than AAA games anyway).
Nvidia will never get me to upgrade from my 1080TI when it can run brand new games at 4k without issue. fuck off
Guess I'll just keep making 3d models with my old graphics card for another few years. Slowly...
They've also added DLSS 3.0 as a hardware component on the 4xxx series which is not available to 2xxx/3xxx cards using DLSS 2.0, so for the approximately 8 games that will bother to use that in the next 10 years they just told everyone whose bought their last two gens of cards to eat shit on the one thing it conclusively had over AMD.
Remember how EVGA (who supplied like 60% of North American Nvidia GPU's) left the market
afaik these prices are a lot less gougey than you'd think. Apparently these cost a ton to make because they're enormous monolithic dies on a node with poor yields.
And, because nvidia did a classic capitalist crisis of overproduction and made way to many 3000 series cards which have saturated the sub 900$ market (you can get a 3070 for around 400$ is awesome), they can't make "midrange" 4000 card because they would be out competed by their own 3000 series products which are being sold at a loss currently.
so, are they ridiculous? Yes, but I'd bet that nvidia inst even making that much on them regardless
I saw the 3070 Ti on sale for $450 a couple of weeks ago. (Best Buy)
I should have clarified second hand, but hardware swap and ebay seem to have quite a few cards going for 400 or less
Wait theres a 4000 series now?
AIGHT IMA DO IT IMA GET A 2000 SERIES NOW! THE PRICE IS RIGHT!
Remember how crypto crash was supposed to make card prices go down?
That just means they'll be sold at msrp, unfortunately video card msrps have climbed by a lot the last 3-4 generations. Generally the bumps in performance have been quite good, but prices are just getting insane.
They loved the whole thing because it confirmed to them they can sell cards at those prices and demand would keep up with supply. It sucks for people who like building PCs.
Personal computers were a mistake. Personal phones were a mistake. Personal televisions were a mistake. No single person needs to own so much rare earth metals. Computers should be distributed in a public manner, we should put public terminals everywhere like phone booths, handheld computers should be restricted to those that actually need them. Video games, films, and books are treats that nobody actually needs.
No books and no movies sounds miserable. But good luck convincing the proletariat that all pleasures are bourgeois decadence or whatever.
