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  • Vulthoom [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    The court is already lost! It's the dumbest argument for Biden. The oldest Republican-aligned justice could easily cling on for another 15-20 years.

    I swear I'm getting flashbacks to the mid-2000s Daily Kos strategy of "just elect better Democrats". It's dead, it never really worked except at the margins, it's glacially slow even in the most optimistic scenarios. You have to find a different approach.

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      Better dems are like AOC or Omar. You get 2 or 3 extra of these better dems every couple years, max. And even they can be suss and compromising.

      We have 10 years to abandon global capitalism in favor of socialism and a green, livable planet.

      • PresterJohnBrown [any]
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        We don't have 10 years, we have 0 years. The feedback loops have already started. Not only is stopping global warming no longer possible, even slowing it down is leaving humanity's grasp as we speak.

        We had 20 years left 20 years ago and we only multiplied our carbon emissions since then.

        • gringosoldier [comrade/them]
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          We don’t have 10 years, we have 0 years. The feedback loops have already started. Not only is stopping global warming no longer possible, even slowing it down is leaving humanity’s grasp as we speak.

          Exactly, so helping re-elect somebody for another 4 years who pulled out of the Paris Agreement -- disregarding how wholly inadequate it is -- just doesn't exactly seem to me like the right approach to address that.

          We can go complete doomerism and say screw it the Supreme Court is a lost cause, but I'm still hoping (probably naively) for a future. Having 4 more years to grow the left under an ineffectual president seems more attractive than daring the universe to fuck you even harder in the ass (and not in the good way).

          • Mardoniush [she/her]
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            How to explain...if you were a working class person in Venezuela who suddenly found out you had the right to vote in this election, would you vote for the guy who sent 6 chuds and a speedboat to coup you?

            Or the guy who's being Weekend at Bernie's by the entire military industrial complex.

            Your supreme court doesn't mean shit compared to how competently your foriegn policy will be executed. Trump is incompetent and that loosens the US imperial grip. This isn't accelerationism, it's internationalism.

            • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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              This isn't an unreasonable take, but I think the "Trump is too incompetent to do imperialism" theory is overplayed. We did come within hours of war with Iran, for instance.

              Plus, I doubt the process on Venezuela was the MIC coming to Trump with a plan and Trump fucking it all up and only sending a few chuds on a speedboat. If anything I can see Trump being more amenable to long-shot, Looney Tunes stuff like that because why not, he can spin some minor fallout.

          • captchaintherye [any]
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            Exactly, so helping re-elect somebody for another 4 years who pulled out of the Paris Agreement – disregarding how wholly inadequate it is – just doesn’t exactly seem to me like the right approach to address that.

            It's not, but the alternative to that guy is also taking bribes from the environment-wrecking slugs who are polluting the environment, so acting like we have to vote Trump out to save Mother Earth is fucking stupid.

              • CommieGirl69 [he/him]
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                obama literally caused trump what are you talking about

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                It's just perceived faster hurtling. The hurtling is caused by capitalism.

                Trump just puts a more open, horrific face on it by tweeting about Bette Midler and saying soldiers are losahs, while Obama is a PR guy who puts people at ease with his intellect and calm demeanor. But the speed of the hurtling did not actually change significantly.

          • PresterJohnBrown [any]
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            Yeah I actually agree, but it's exhausting fighting libs on Twitter who think criticizing Biden means you're a covert agent for Trump and then coming here and arguing with chapos for even suggesting there might be a tiny bit of utility in placing a checkmark next to a bad man's name in November.

      • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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        So what's the plan, then?

        Electoralism sucks, sure, no one here thinks it's the end-all-be-all. But there's no revolution coming either, so bagging on electoralism without suggesting any real alternative will get us nowhere.