oh look at mx. too good for a $5 lunch stipend ovah hea. you think you're better than me?
I dream about saying "not guilty" till I'm blue in the face and every other juror wants to murder me, but I've never even been summoned.
FYI this does put you at risk of being nailed for perjury if they can make a case that you tried to get selected with the intent to do this
Unless you litterally begin bragging about it and confessing, they have fuck all in the way of a case against you. So as long as you don't go around posting videos of youself saying "I love jury nullification and plan to lie to the cops to get a chance to do it", you'll be fine.
At the risk of being radlib about it, you don't even have to do nullification for accepting jury duty to be a positive. Just doing exactly what you're supposed to and not treating cop witnesses as magically perfectly reliable will still make you an improvement on at least 90% of jurors.
Has anyone ever actually been legally punished for this? From what I've seen, the charges (which are already astoundingly rare) always get dropped.
I cannot be trusted with even a little bit of power and access, so given the opportunity i fully intend to lie my way onto a bench and then prevent the law from being enforced as best as i can.
Same thing except instead of following up, I just didn't go and moved multiple times
It was a domestic case and during selection the guys defense attorney asked "ladies and gentlemen of the jury, how many of you know a woman who has never lied?" and after the...judge? Or some court official idr I was pretty baked, but they saw my face when he said that and I was quickly excused.
-After reading this thread I think I was dismissed by the prosecutor.
Just ignored it completely, they get no guarantee for USPS delivery and in the 1% chance you get called out you can always say you never received the summons
I've gotten a jury summons a few times, but I've never made it as far as actually being asked any questions. I did sit in the back of a courtroom as a possible fill-in as the potential jury was questioned though, so I've at least watched the process. They ended up not needing me and I got to go home. But anyway, the two lawyers will ask you questions about whether you're prejudiced in different ways depending on what the case is. I think there's a limit to how many people each lawyer can dismiss, so if you can manage it, make the prosecutor get rid of you instead of the defense lawyer. Any indication that you believe cops routinely make things up and plant evidence should do it.
make the prosecutor get rid of you instead of the defense lawyer. Any indication that you believe cops routinely make things up and plant evidence should do it.
This is good advice I hadn't considered that.
Thanks! Ideally, people with decent values would stay and try to get selected, but life circumstances don't always permit that. So the least you can do is try to make it cost the prosecution something on your way out. :party-cat:
For all that it's supposed to be a "Jury of your peers" they sure did structure it in such a way that poor people flat out can't afford to do it and rich people will simply get out of it. I wonder what the demographics of juries really are? I assume it has to be mostly retired people because who else can or would do it?
In my experience it's mostly workers in that middle-ish tier where you get some PTO, but not enough pull to simply not go.
Pretty much, yeah. I happened to be just waiting for a few weeks before I could start my new job, so I actually was free and wanted to be picked so I could, ahem, do my civic duty, but unfortunately I didn't get a shot at being bland enough to not get rejected by either side.
I got jury duty around 5 years ago, dismissed before showing up.
5 years later, basically right when I became eligible for jury duty again, I got summoned again. And dismissed before showing up again.
The sad thing is I actually want jury duty so I can try to nullify some bullshit drug charge or whatever.
When they were doing the initial review or whatever I told them I thought the traffic laws concerning bikes in the city were shit. Case had to do with a cycling accident. They let me go immediately. Was going to be an open and shut waste of time. Guy was riding his bike on the sidewalk which was forbidden in the city even though it is unavoidable in places. There was no way he was gonna win. Felt kind of bad dipping but there was no way the judge instructed the jury to find any way but according to traffic laws.
I told them I super believe in the law because my plan was to get on the Jury and vote "not guilty" no matter what because fuck the courts, but they didn't pick me. My guess is I wasn't old enough since everyone who did get picked was at least fifty.
Idk, I've never had a summons mailed to me but also Idk if the state knows where I live
As a rule, I do not do paperwork if I can avoid it without legal consequence or losing thousands of dollars.
My passport and driver's license are both expired though, so there are downsides to this.
According to this federal government website, courts use the rolls of registered voters, and sometimes the drivers' license list (I would also assume that they would use non-license IDs in addition but I'm not sure) for whichever state they're in to randomly select candidates to serve as jurors. So if you're not registered to vote and don't have an unexpired state ID, then I suppose that you are de facto exempt from even being summoned. I'd bet that no court would summon someone with a canceled voter registration or an expired ID since they'd be unable to guarantee that the person they'd be seeking would ever receive the summons letter/jury questionnaire.
I'd stay on if I could so I could bully the other jurors into letting the defendant go and charging the cop, or charging both if the defendant did something actually bad.
i put down my gender as "other" and got a text saying i was dismissed literally the next day
I've actually wanted to take part in jury duty but every time I get contacted about it I just so happen to be moving from the state I was in. I did have a coworker to actually did jury nullification though, he said it was very awkward but worth it
