A plant based future won't have disabled people in it. It won't have Me in it. I'm anemic and don't digest food right, I require meat with high iron content and iron pills and I require high vitamin food that plant doesn't always have. Like cats, require thiamine only in meat.
I dunno what medical condition they may have, but thiamine is found in legumes and enriched whole grains so it's not only found in meat. Same with iron, things like spinach have a high level of iron content you just have to also eat something with calcium around the same time to encourage iron absorption
I mean legumes lose certain nutrients like thiamine during soaking and nutrition. The process of cooking is also required to actually digest the nutrients though. 1 cup of cooked beans has the same vitamin B1 content as 1/3 cup raw dried beans, which is around 0.4mg. So you'd need to eat 3 cups, or 540g of beans to get enough thiamine. And if a person is already struggling to absorb vitamin B1 in the first place, they'd probably need more.
Much better vegan sources of thiamine is stuff like vegan mince/burgers/meat substitutes, soy milk and Marmite (nutritional yeast). The concentration is much higher and even someone that struggles to absorb thiamine should be golden with stuff like that.
I would add flax seeds but it's very hard to eat a significant quantity of them lol.
Yeah but there's a difference between some raw bell peppers which are delicious and safe, and trying to eat dry raw beans, which can be pretty harmful as you said.
I thought most people knew this? I can't imagine someone trying to chow down some raw beans.
legumes lose certain nutrients like thiamine during soaking and nutrition. The process of cooking is also required to actually digest the nutrients though. 1 cup of cooked beans has the same vitamin B1 content as 1/3 cup raw dried beans
You know that soaking and cooking beans makes them about 3x as big right?
The b1 water soluble. It goes into the soak and cook water. It’s not just creative vitamin accounting.
If a cup of dried beans had idk, nine grams of thiamin in it, and they got three times bigger but lost two thirds of their thiamin when cooked, then how many grams of thiamin are you gonna get when you eat your reasonable one cup serving of cooked beans?
That’s right! One gram!
It doesn’t matter that the beans expanded when cooking because the thiamin isn’t in them anymore.
This is true of all b-vitamins btw. Save your aquafaba.
There's also shitloads of thiamine in energy drinks lol
I doubt it has to be said, but there have been and continues to be entire food cultures that were vegan... ancient Inuds Valley civilizations all the way to plenty of Indians today, plenty of Mediterranean diets were vegatarian or vegan (Pythagoras was said to avoid killing and hunters and also didn't eat beans, and he lived long enough to be killed for some other bullshit lol)
I dunno what medical condition they may have, but thiamine is found in legumes and enriched whole grains so it's not only found in meat. Same with iron, things like spinach have a high level of iron content you just have to also eat something with calcium around the same time to encourage iron absorption
I mean legumes lose certain nutrients like thiamine during soaking and nutrition. The process of cooking is also required to actually digest the nutrients though. 1 cup of cooked beans has the same vitamin B1 content as 1/3 cup raw dried beans, which is around 0.4mg. So you'd need to eat 3 cups, or 540g of beans to get enough thiamine. And if a person is already struggling to absorb vitamin B1 in the first place, they'd probably need more.
Much better vegan sources of thiamine is stuff like vegan mince/burgers/meat substitutes, soy milk and Marmite (nutritional yeast). The concentration is much higher and even someone that struggles to absorb thiamine should be golden with stuff like that.
I would add flax seeds but it's very hard to eat a significant quantity of them lol.
also do not eat uncooked kidney beans they are poisonous, lentils too but less so
beans actually need to be cooked right
Of course you shouldn't eat uncooked food, that should go without saying.
not always for vegetables.
Yeah but there's a difference between some raw bell peppers which are delicious and safe, and trying to eat dry raw beans, which can be pretty harmful as you said.
I thought most people knew this? I can't imagine someone trying to chow down some raw beans.
I thought I'd reiterate because you mentioned losing nutrients during soaking that you can't eat unprepared beans
You know that soaking and cooking beans makes them about 3x as big right?
Idk if you’re serious so uhh…
The b1 water soluble. It goes into the soak and cook water. It’s not just creative vitamin accounting.
If a cup of dried beans had idk, nine grams of thiamin in it, and they got three times bigger but lost two thirds of their thiamin when cooked, then how many grams of thiamin are you gonna get when you eat your reasonable one cup serving of cooked beans?
That’s right! One gram!
It doesn’t matter that the beans expanded when cooking because the thiamin isn’t in them anymore.
This is true of all b-vitamins btw. Save your aquafaba.
There's also shitloads of thiamine in energy drinks lol
I doubt it has to be said, but there have been and continues to be entire food cultures that were vegan... ancient Inuds Valley civilizations all the way to plenty of Indians today, plenty of Mediterranean diets were vegatarian or vegan (Pythagoras was said to avoid killing and hunters and also didn't eat beans, and he lived long enough to be killed for some other bullshit lol)
They weren't vegan, they were vegetarian. India has the most diary cows of any country in the world.
There's plenty of Jains who are pretty strict, I know lots use dairy but there's always been plenty that don't.