• EndMilkInCrisps [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    This map is interesting. I wonder what why there is more of a culture of reporting and/or realising reports of ufos in anglo countries. Probably some psyop.

    • Shoegazer [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      That’s because the US likes to fly dangerous black op aircrafts in populated areas and carry out human experiments on citizens.

    • Bluegrass_Buddhist [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      It's not even a mystery. UFO sightings and close encounters (understood to be extraterrestrials) were a creation of, and now a cultural relic of, the Cold War. UFO Sightings massively proliferated in the 1950s; the famous Betty and Barney Hill abduction, the first major reported such incident, wasn't until 1961.

      The real interesting bit is how close encounter narratives shifted to parrallel increasing US / USSR hostility. Early close encounter stories from the 60s had the aliens be peaceful and kind who would give contactees a tour of their spaceship. By the late 70s-80s that shifts to the Fire in The Sky style narrative where the aliens are forceful kidnappers who physically and sexually assault terrified abductees.

    • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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      2 years ago

      Anglos misinterpret the mysteries and wonders of nature as advanced space aliens because of their obsession with technological development to secure their own supremacy, very unenlightened.

      • hahafuck [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Dissociative Identity Disorder (split personalities) also seems to be an entirely American phenomenon.

        Please please expand on this. Actually if you have any book recs on this I will take them also

      • grobbo2 [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Dissociative Identity Disorder (split personalities) also seems to be an entirely American phenomenon.

        The idea that Dissociative Identity Disorder is unique to the USA, the west, or developed countries is outdated. People with DID are found at similar rates throughout the globe. However, the presentation, diagnosis, and treatment of psychiatric disorders is influenced by society and culture - one person's demonic possession is another's split personality.

        https://did-research.org/controversy/international

      • Commander_Data [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        DID is definitely real and a pretty normal reaction to extreme childhood trauma. If it's more prevalent in the anglosphere it's because :lmayo:s are sexually terrorizing kids more frequently.

      • Socialcreditscorr [they/them,she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Are you seriously implying Dissociative Identity Disorder isn't real to own the Anglos? Genuinely and sincerely go fuck yourself. :PIGPOOPBALLS: I can't believe im seeing something like this on this site its a like parody genuinely something I'd expect from a patsoc. Jesus christ.

        Edit: The fact that you also refered to it as "split personalitys" The levels of ableist brainworms on display.

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Dissociative Identity Disorder (split personalities) also seems to be an entirely American phenomenon.

        I think you need to expand that to at least western. It might be called something different outside of America as many other countries use different systems to classify conditions but split personalities occur outside of the US as well.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Probably to do with all the media about it, would explain why countries like South Africa and Australia appear on here, access to all the UFO flicks

    • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      I feel like it's because there's no underlying culture to explain it - where someone in other countries might interpret an alien through folklore (or conversely, what we see as aliens are in fact the folkloric figure, either way), :lmayo: s don't have that so it gets bucketed in their minds as an "alien" because that's all we got in a larger sense.

    • plinky [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Cause others don’t read american crap, so don’t jump to :posad: when they see car in the night

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Probably some psyop.

      I can't believe nobody's mentioned this yet, but one major reason for the proliferation of UFO culture is literally a psyop. The CIA were testing the U2 spy plane in Area 51 in the 50s, and not only lied about sightings of their spy plane in order to cover it up, but gaslit certain prolific early UFO truthers in order to discredit everyone who was looking up and cataloguing every strange thing they saw. Some UFO sightings predate this - the CIA didn't invent the idea they just pumped it - but the sightings that are directly related to the U2's development turned it from an occasional thing that happened into an entire American subculture.

  • huf [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    ghost sightings became uncool and so they switched to ufos.

    i think ghosts made a comeback in the 2000s so maybe ufos are uncool now?

      • huf [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        dunno about that. based on no research, just living here, there's practically no belief in ufos OR ghosts here in hungary.

        there are ufo magazines, or used to be in the 90s, but i think it's a really really tiny subculture. ghost enthusiasts are probably an even smaller one.

        but i dont think anyone would make reality tv about haunted houses or ufo abductions here.

        so maybe it does have something to do with anglo culture. or i'm just oblivious and the mental rot is at the same level here too.

        • hahafuck [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Are you university educated, living in a city? I know a few slovaks and a few non-anglo western euros who believe in ghosts but all are Catholics and from rural parts so to speak. But they believe like I have known Americans to believe, full ghost-hunter orb-photo mentality.

          I think UFOs are more of an American thing but ghosts are international, but definitely europe seems like they believe in ghosts the least even if every town and city still does ghost tours.

          Worth noting also that serious UFO people in the USA are also a 'tiny subculture' (big country) with a few low-circulation publications (falling off since the 90s like all print media). But ghosts? That's like a third to half of all Americans lol

  • hahafuck [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Not gonna be the 'UFOs are real' voice here but keep in mind whoever collated this data also probably only spoke English. UFOlogy is massively anglophone and so reports in English get saved and shared where there may be lots of reports in other languages that get overlooked or go unrecorded. Also, UFO investigators who collect these firsthand stories do so largely in English and an uncollected story does not exist for the purposes of this analysis.

    Compare to ghosts or demonic possession stories, which are also not real, but which are international because people collect ghost stories in every language.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      True true, I guess no westerners have seen a Tokoloshe for instance, as a reverse example of what you're saying.

    • grobbo2 [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah, that's definitely it. 80% of UFO footage (or really any strange phenomena of that sort) I've seen comes from Latin America - so I'm going to say Latin America being nearly pitch black on this map is evidence of less-than-sufficient research, rather than evidence that there's nothing in the skies.

      Plus, different understandings lead to different conclusions. One sci-fi nerd's flying saucer is a Catholic's angel. We see what we expect to see, and report it as such - muddying the waters for research even further than if it was just the language barrier.

    • space_comrade [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I've also heard China has a pretty lively UFO scene but like most things China you don't really hear about it.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      Not gonna be the ‘UFOs are real’ voice

      UFOs are obviously real, as not every flying object can be successfully identified.

      But the mythology of unidentified objects regularly outstrip their reality. So often, we hear about "impossible" maneuvers and extraordinary circumstances all clouded in the unknown. We never get a payoff of the thing actually getting identified as a known quantity.

      Demons are a great parallel to the US treatment of UFOs, as they are also Strange, Malignant, and an Ill-Omen used to scare people into compliance with authority.

      They are just as real, in so far as strange, malignant forces do exist that can justify the upholding of status quo. But they are also fake, in so far as there are no monsters that crawled up from hell to eat you.

  • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    We do know for a fact that some UFOs were the U2 plane. It could be that the US sees the most UFOs because they're being monitored the most.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Yeah all the experimental aircraft. If people don't know things like the b2 bomber exist and see one flying, not a wild assumption to think it's aliens with all the UFO media that Americans have been watching.

      I won't knock them for it, ancient aliens program was cool in an absurdist funny way until it got slightly racist.

  • geese_feces [comrade/them, love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    The source of the data is the "National UFO Reporting Center".

    https://nuforc.org/about-us/

    The principal means used by the Center to receive sighting reports is this website, which has operated continuously since 1994. Prior to that period, the telephone hotline and the U.S. mail were the primary means of taking reports.

    It's a US-based organization and their website is only available in English.

  • HoChiMaxh [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    That account is from a Serbian nationalist :heartbreaking:

  • Crowtee_Robot [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Anglos have already been everywhere in the planet, so anything they can't explain/colonize must be from another world.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Maybe, I'd guess most of the real ones seen in the west are experimental aircraft flown by the CIA. Kinda like the "aurora" story but real.

  • aaro [they/them, she/her]
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    2 years ago

    went looking for the original and found this

    https://teddit.sethforprivacy.com/r/UFOs/comments/xfsi5m/map_of_all_reported_ufo_sightings_19062014

    :brainworms:

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Those people are on another level of delusion.

      They actually believe Brazil is being terrorised by UFOs and aliens are collecting soil samples in public and getting into fights with the police and military. Wow

      100%. Brazil has been terrorized by UFOs in the past, to the point where people were afraid to walk outside at night. I believe even the government/law enforcement got involved it got so bad for periods of time

      Brazil is under a new wave of sightings, last month I went to Minas Gerais to research about a new case, the UAP landed behind a house and it's pilots were seen collecting soil and plants with a tube, they were wearing a suit with a bag behind them and a hoose attached to It. It was seen by a little girl and her mother. In less than 4 months we collected over 100 cases with videos and photos of the objects and they are under analysis

      How do you even

      • Shoegazer [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Actually, Brazil is terrorized by UFOs. The only problem is that the UFO and aliens are actually CIA.

        https://mobile.twitter.com/TannerFBoyle1/status/1534755515091279872

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          Nedelcovic admitted to being part of a CIA operation, under the guise of USAID, to stage alien abductions in Brazil

          Another reason to hate USAID, staging UFO abductions yo terrorise citizens of a foreign country. What a horrible organisation

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    2 years ago

    You don't understand, they're keeping an eye on the most insane nations so they can make sure they don't burn the planet down or launch nukes or something....pretty reasonable to me