I’m seeing all these articles about overseas Chinese police stations and :cracker: s are acting as if they uncovered underground Fallout-style spy rings or something. Does anyone know what they are actually for? I’m assuming they’re just there to work alongside the local police departments like they have in various African nations.

  • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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    US literally has fucking police blacksites and was black bagging protestors in 2020 off the street into unmarked vans, but they're shidding and pissing over China having police stations that aren't obvious public knowledge

    You can't convince me that they ONLY had ONE blacksite btw, no way in hell every large American city doesn't have these

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      American pigs murdered dozens of people during the protests of summer 2020 and literally drove into some of them, but did you know that in gommulist China a guy stood in front of a tank once and they stopped for him?

    • 7bicycles [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Okay, I have to ask. I sort of get the FBI doing this, as a federal agency. I even got explained why the fuck the NYPD has a goddamn submarine. Why the fuck does the NYPD have foreign departments? Is it for the UN or something?

      • VenetianMask [any]
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        That's probably how they cross train with IDF and such

        Why does NYPD have a submarine..? Looking for bodies in the river?

        • 7bicycles [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          The explanation I got on here was because drug smugglers

          • VenetianMask [any]
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            2 years ago

            Well that's probably not it. You don't catch a submarine with another sub, you catch them with microphones. Does it have torpedoes or something?

        • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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          That’s probably how they cross train with IDF and such

          In Tel Aviv, but London? Paris? Sydney? Abu Dhabi? OK, we know what that last one is used for.

      • KoboldKomrade [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Nominally, the same reason for the Chinese police stations. To "serve" citizens from NY/China in the foreign local. Basically embassies but with guns and shit. America (and most nations) also enforce their own laws on their own citizens in certain cases when the "crime" occurs outside of the nation. Its good for certain crimes (sex crimes), but also can be super arbitrary of course. Basically, the NYPD has some cop in London to arrest Jerry American for spilling coffee in the tea shop.

        In reality its power projection, intruding upon local enforcement, scaring locals, and enabling spying.

        • 7bicycles [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah but why the NYPD?

          The US has an array of agencies that I could reasonably see the case to do police stations in foreign countries given the framework. But the fucking NYPD? What, on an administrative level, makes them so special? Is the only thing between my hometown having a Sheboygan PD station that no one can be arsed to go for it?

          • Diogenes_Barrel [love/loves]
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            2 years ago

            new york is by a long margin the most important city in america with the oldest, most institutionally established police & city government. literally more personnel than whole country's militaries

          • emizeko [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            What, on an administrative level, makes them so special?

            a huge budget

    • Blorbis83 [he/him,use name]
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      2 years ago

      Lmao as usual it is pure projection with the West. And from what I’ve gathered the Chinese police haven’t done anything to local citizens, they literally only interact with Chinese citizens.

  • Gorillatactics [none/use name]
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    Seems to be based on some report from an NGO nobody has every heard of. I checked their websites and nowhere did they say who funds them.

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    • wifom [they/them]
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      https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2022/10/27/chinese-overseas-police-station-in-dublin-ordered-to-shut/

      Another one, this time for a supposed station in Dublin.

      The Chinese embassy in Dublin has insisted the Capel Street office was not involved in any law enforcement activity. There is no evidence it was involved in “persuasion” activities.

      Oh cool, so there is no evidence that this office is doing anything nefarious at all. Great reporting there

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        2 years ago

        People Are Just Asking Questions. If You Have Nothing To Hide, You Won't Have A Problem.

    • plov_mix [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      “They want to destroy my reputation. But since I am in Canada, they cannot just kidnap me or kill me, like many of my friends in Thailand or Vietnam [or] Hong Kong,” she said. “[But] now the Chinese police station [is] here, just a few kilometres from me, so I am asking myself, where else I can escape to?”

      LOL good. May you be tormented by self-inflicted despair and nightmares.

    • Blorbis83 [he/him,use name]
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      2 years ago

      Excellent analysis Comrade, thank you! I had assumed the panic about it was mostly overblown projection, but this break-down is a good explanation of how pathetic this sort of red-scare propaganda shit is

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    • cogito_ergo_cum [he/him]
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      “We’ve heard of threats directly targeting people who are advocating for minority rights in China, such as those from the Uyghur and Tibetan communities. These stations are now another tool that Beijing can use to repress Canadians here in the Chinese community in Canada,” he said.

      Note that they're not even saying that the alleged threats have come from the "police stations"

  • Fartster [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    This shit is going to get people hurt. Go to the :reddit-logo: thread and there are people calling for executions and saying they are going to go to these offices to defend their holy land.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      This sounds like the anti-Islam panics of the '00s. "Ground Zero Mosque", the Sharia Law freak out, No Go Zones, etc.

      It spurred a ton of violence and bigotry, even beyond all the wars.

    • Blorbis83 [he/him,use name]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah the article about it from PBS says that a shop-owner in Portugal was accused by police iirc of being a Chinese government official, because he was Chinese. :doomer:

  • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Isn't it only Fuzhou's police force that's doing it? It kinda looks like it's one province doing it based off of all the media.

  • booty [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I'll start worrying about overseas Chinese police stations when the overseas American police stations and military bases are gone

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    China really needs to hit harder and stop playing nice. This shit did the Soviet Union in. Russia's been paving way with the global south because of its aggressive Anti-NATO propaganda that many willingly listen to.

      • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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        Maybe an exaggeration, but it helped alienate the Soviet Union by constantly conjuring images of it being an impressive hellhole. Soft Power goes a long way because most people are apolitical and unaware. It's why the US has so many people simping for it because of Hollywood. All they know is that America is a good place to live just like the people on TV.