https://twitter.com/BotTheFlag/status/1588190764705652737

Kinda sucks that this artist (Red and Black Salamander) never grew past their 2018 Bernie left phase, I used to like their stuff.

  • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    fucking christ, that twitter thread is a bunch of people who think the internet is real life. go ask people in real life about nazbols and tankies, they won't know what the fuck youre talking about.

    • Changeling [it/its]
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      2 years ago

      If I am ever lined up against the wall and shot, I’m gonna be pissed about being in the same line as Twitter liberals

      • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        it is truly sad how often a constantly-online anarchist sounds like a liberal. at least outside of hexbear. i feel like i never have that issue with commies/socialists.

        • Changeling [it/its]
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          2 years ago

          As someone whose affinity group irl is mostly anarchists, I feel like anarchists on Twitter are just significantly more centrist than anarchists irl

          • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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            2 years ago

            anarchists with social skills arent running around in public screaming "tankies!!1" while everyone ignores them.

            • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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              2 years ago

              I know a bunch of anarchists IRL and they only slightly rib me and take some ribbing back about our ideological differences. It's more fun to talk about destroying our shared enemies and admitting just going with what works is the best strategy, not being too ideologically pure.

              • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                2 years ago

                Same here, I know MLS, demsocs, anarchists, etc. We all mostly get along and as you said anytime we make digs about one ideology or another it's always mostly in jest or good faith criticism.

                • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  just makes me think even more and more any "anarchist" promoting leftist infighting is either actually a liberal and doesnt know it or works for a 3 letter agency.

                • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  Yep, I think anarchists have definitely nailed down the street politics that the communists have lost over the past century. Any socialist movement in the west will rely heavy anarchist organizing for conflict and radicalized trade unions that will probably end up shifting more towards what we'd call ML though likely in a newer form.

                  The old divides are gone, AES has shown a thousand possible pathways to development and maintenance of a revolutionary state and in the end whatever happens will inevitably come from the conditions of the revolution and the conditions of the economy in the revolutionary state.

                  • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                    2 years ago

                    Like for one, who is always at the forefront in the US when some cop cars get torched for doing a homeless camp sweep, or the majority of people out there feeding people in orgs like FNB? I have respect for ML comrades and I'm not by any stretch saying they don't do good work like that too, but whenever I see people say shit like, "oh anarchists never had a successful revolution" I'm like ok get out here with us then, come work in the kitchen, come put your ass on the line too. And at the same time I see people saying shit like "the MLs just want power and they are going to murder anarchists" like we somehow have to play out the same exact hundred year old ideological beefs.

                    It's all terminally online LARP bullshit and it's so damn frustrating.

      • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        “First they came for the Twitter shitlibs, and I did not speak out, because I hated those assholes”

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      that twitter thread is a bunch of people who think the internet is real life

      When you're terminally online and interacting exclusively with other terminally online folks...

  • Changeling [it/its]
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    2 years ago

    I don’t even understand the stereotype. “Globalists” is a right wing dogwhistle for “jews”. I’ve never heard leftists use the term derogatorily. If we wanna talk shit about western hegemony or NATO, we use those terms directly.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      There actually used to be a coherent leftist stance against "globalization" in the 90s. Like lots of protest movements, but that was much more focused on opposing things like corporate personhood, NAFTA, international debt schemes, stuff like that. I remember being in leftist chatrooms in like 2003 and they were talking about "globalism" but they meant the IMF. Leftists now seem to prefer to talk about that stuff in a broader context of imperialism.

      Anyone now though using the term in a derogatory way is a deranged conspiracy theorist talking about Jews or they want a fascist world of nationality based on race.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        anti-Globalization and the "Globalism" that has become a widely used term on the right in the last few years should be held distinct. The right doesn't use the term "Globalization" as far as I know.

      • fifthedition [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        The Battle of Seattle. Do you all really have memories that short? Seattle burned over NAFTA. Jello Biafra had an album called "No to WTO" or something like that.

    • Kuori [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      as people's minister for justice of transland, i swear to you these misguided souls will be re-educated immediately

    • celestial
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      4 months ago

      deleted by creator

    • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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      2 years ago

      Trans people are disproprotionately comrades compared to cis people, but there's still some real libs on trans twitter

  • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    "wow what a situation we're in. is it republicans faults? Democrats? No, its the group that has no power in the current system. They are to blame."

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      It's meant to be an updated Andy Capp in my opinion, Andy Capp was probably more left than this idiot though.

      • Grownbravy [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        i'm not going to try to be kind, this style repulses me for some reason. like, lines too thick for this level of detail, there's a gracelessness to it, there's some lack of grounding, i want tear it apart, it doesnt breath to me, like an insect failing to molt

    • flowernet [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      "Whats satire?"

      "It's a kind of humor that's not funny."

      "Humor? What is that."

      "It's something that's funny."

      "oh. Well then it's definitely not that."

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        2 years ago

        Love to talk to the guy who doesn't know "humor" but does know "funny".

  • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Wait what, I thought the comic was mocking American patsoc types, why are all the neolibs liking the tweet? Is it supposed to be unironic lmao

  • hahafuck [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I didn't ever like them but just because I don't like their artstyle