Can we get an F in the chat for Twitter not getting sued to hell and back for breaking all kinds of laws by accident?
There are decades where nothing happens, and there are weeks where decades happen
Musk just said he is going to nuke all blue check marks.
This is becoming pathetic.
I dunno, I think it's p fucking funny watching a manchild squander a fortune buying a company that is hemorrhaging money, and then absolutely axe it to death
Musk just said he is going to nuke all blue check marks.
Curious to see if The Guardian and liberal media in general quit calling him an inventor or the founder of Pay Pal and Tesla and start saying he's a Russian stooge doing Putin's bidding.
Someone said he was like Herbert Hoover.
Herbert Hoover was one of the OG American capitalist wunderkinds. Look at how well Hoover ran things.
:lathe-of-heaven: myspace comes back out of nowhere to become the dominant social media platform
no tom though. he rejected the ticket to pedo island and will never come out of retirement
I'm on board but only if they unban me from the comedy forum
wonder if my html that forced my profile to flash pink and green and blast Venetian Snares still works
It will be up to engineers to "self-certify compliance[...]"
You just know the engineers are gonna read this and be like "yeh, alright, how hard could it be? I've done more complicated stuff than that"
I've done compliance type stuff at an engineer heavy company before and my rule is that an engineer's confidence in dealing with regulation is usually inverse to their ability.
If I have to choose between a 4.0 honors graduate with a god complex and an exasperated dude from a middling state school who couches every response to an out-of-pocket request with "I need to get your request in writing first", I'm taking the second guy ten times out of ten.
lol not me, miss me with that shit, i would be out faster than that adorable cartoon roadrunner and if i couldn't quit, i would rev up the CYA email machine full blast.
I'm sure the engineers will actually be like "great, even more shit I have to do"
Oh cool all the code monkeys opening themselves up for unlimited liability if they screw up in a way that is world-wide and famously byzantine, im sure this is going to work out great
I knew some people who were deep in to start up culture like a decade ago and they had story after story of how bazinga engineers and programmers were completely immune to understanding basic things like "You cannot just copy text/code/images/whatever from other companies that is copyright theft and exposes us to massive liability". It was a stretch to just get them to understand the concept of liability.
engineers and programmers were completely immune to understanding basic things like “You cannot just copy text/code/images/whatever from other companies that is copyright theft and exposes us to massive liability”
accidentally based?
I knew some people who were deep in to start up culture
bazinga:sadness:
Dude they’re not gonna read anything, are you kidding? We don’t even read man pages. Chances are the company will get sued, not us.
I told you the goal of Musk is
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to kick out anyone so he can abuse the protected data and read DM's of Grimes and her affairs, as well as to more easily do union busting. Saudi and US money means that some journalists might end up in jail or worse.
Indeed. Any vestige of privacy (such as it is online) will definitely go out the window - once the flames die down, the Saudi and US investors will leverage their influence and start peeling through the database of users. Expect the shutdown of service when there are periods of serious unrest - not by governments but by Twitter directly.
The problem with that is that people will just stop using Twitter
As we have seen time and time again, the law does not matter at this level
Ehhhhhhhhhhh we'll see. The EU does still have some regulatory chops to go along with it's very strict privacy positions. And there will be consequences in the US, too. Maybe the FTC won't do anything, but this is going to cause so many problems for advertisers, for celebrities and politicians. Like Elon has to potential here to really, really, really piss off the people who are responsible for his success.
https://twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1590724257608134657
Link to the tweet. There's some amazing fanboy cope in there.
DaveO ⚔️ 🗽:blue-check:
It’s good they left before Elon fired them. No one has time for internal actors trying to sabotage the company.
In the same message, the employee said Twitter’s current head of Legal, Alex Spiro, said “Elon is willing to take on a huge amount of risk in relation to his company and its users, because ‘Elon puts rockets into space, he’s not afraid of the FTC.’”
:curry-space:
Grimes NEVER said I had a "weird dick" and "smelled like nachos" and if you repost this you will be arrested
Holy shit, if I were an engineer I'd instantly quit too. I'm not taking potential legal liability (idk if that's a thing for employees, but the whole point of a legal dept is I don't need to!) when I could easily find a comparable job elsewhere. Fuck that noise.
Also, Musk impulsively decided to turn twitter into a bank. I'm guessing the legal team resigned because their workload just tripled.
Wasn't there a theory that every company is turning into a bank, because basically every company is doing loyalty programs, which are basically their own currencies. Think airplane companies, hotel chains, etc. For some only their loyalty program is turning them a profit, and their core business is a loss making part to support the loyalty program.
Loyalty programs are also a way to tag private data to cash transactions so they can find patterns in transactions that would otherwise not be traceable.
But I don't think loyalty programs are really acting like banks, they're primarily a marketing tactic and their purpose is to increase interaction with the business or product, not charge a service fee or interest.
Though most of these places do also have debit and credit cards, sometimes they act as an intermediary for a bank (I think the amazon credit card does that), but some are banks in their own right (president's choice financial is the bank for the loblaws grocery store chain, of bread price fixing fame).
Who are still price fixing bread, by the way. Along with the Sobey family, and the Metro chain of grocers in Québec.
Just 15 years ago I remember paying 79¢ for a loaf of whole grain bread, baked in-store. The in-store bakery no longer makes anything other than "artisan breads", that cost $5 a loaf. Pre-packaged shit that gets shipped in is $2.29.
If prices had tracked with inflation like everything else, I'd be paying $1.08.
they got rid of their compliance and security teams before becoming too. great idea
He's in important meetings just riffing, it's so funny: https://techcrunch.com/2022/11/09/elon-musk-details-his-vision-for-a-twitter-payments-system/
I have worked with developers who refused to do dumb shit with credit card security because it would be a crime for them personally. Told the boss to go pound sand basically, and he did
Please, federal regulators, do you job. You've let Elon get away with a lot over the years, but it's like he wants to get caught this time. Come on, wouldn't it be fun?
f in the chat for a compliance team so united that they quit together and so non aware that they dont simply strike first..
I mean, it'd be like if the orchestra people on the Titanic did a strike instead of playing when the ship goes down, not really worth the effort at that point
The company I work for has about the same number of employees as Twitter, so I think it's a good analogy. If our entire legal team quit, and they told us "you have no legal protection, any development you do better not infringe on any patents or be otherwise non legally compliant" I would absolutely fucking quit. Putting the onus on engineers and coders is absurd.
So do you think this will follow musk or at all? Will broader society stop calling him a genius when hes done with this shit show?
What are the chances that these guys all quit because Elon told them to do something illegal? Seems like the kind of thing he would do, and anyone with a brain would jump ship immediately if Elon fucking Musk asked them to put themselves on the line.
Could be that. Could be that they knew he would tell them to do illegal things soon. Could be that they just realized how utterly fucked the company is and decided to leave sooner rather than have their names attached to the implosion.
