https://web.archive.org/web/20221120105553/https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/20/us/colorado-springs-shooting-gay-nightclub/index.html

“We thank the quick reactions of heroic customers that subdued the gunman and ended this hate attack,” the statement said. Details of how the shooting ended have yet to be released by police, but Castro said “this was not an officer-involved shooting.”

      • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah one reason my partner and I are trying to get better mentally is to be able to own guns without being dangers to ourselves. Shits scary out there and we frequently fantasize about starting a queer version of the black panthers

      • commenter [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Calling them weak minded or scared like they generally do when the topic of CCW comes up doesn't work particularly well when the people they are trying to shame are regularly victims of mass shootings and regular violence. I mean it's still ridiculous when chuds who only go chud places full of white cis chuds still feel the need to never leave home without a carry weapon, but it's because of those people that the rest of us should also be armed.

    • Commander_Data [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Comrade, I'm a lesbian and armed to the teeth. If we don't protect ourselves, who will?

    • FlintstoneSpiceLatte [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Same, I just want to leave the fucking US. But no, they want me to pay 4,000 dollars to renounce my American citizenship. I'm probably bi and I'm not a nazi, this country should be happy to see me go, why place a barrier?

      • JuneFall [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        You see the GDR was horrible for not letting people out, the US is benevolent in making you pay a fee for leaving its tax obligations.

      • fifthedition [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        If you live abroad American citizenship is one of your best assets. It makes things easy for you, you can enter so many countries without any advance notice. Just show up and boom, 90 days free entry. Even if you want to stay and work, there is so much fraud from other countries that a blue passport is your guarantee that they'll take you seriously when you apply.

              • jackal [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                It's basically true, I've been working out of the country for a few years (hoping to get permanent residency and never return to the US) and while my work currently helps me with expat taxes, my US taxes owed are very low every year.

                    • tagen
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                      1 year ago

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                      • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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                        2 years ago

                        :yea:

                        At least Thailand is a nice alternative, they may not be socialist but they do have a good relationship with China and they've gotten some trains from Belt and Road so you can go to China when you want to

                        Plus they just legalized weed so that's cool

                        Also while the terminology isn't great over there, I hear they're above average on trans rights

                        • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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                          2 years ago

                          Trans rights are a mixed bag everywhere, no place is ideal in that regard. That may change during the next few decades, but rn there's some massive downsides about everywhere, even in places that are generally very inclusive. Due to the region historically recognizing more than two genders, Thai society is very accepting of trans people from all i've heard. There's no gatekeeping around trans healthcare, they have world-class surgeons for trans-related stuff and while you'll pay out of pocket for anything, the prices are more affordable than elsewhere. You can also just go and change your name for less than 2$.

                          The big downsides are no gay marriage and no legal gender changes. Like, at all. In the eyes of the state, you're permanently stuck with your assigned gender at birth, and if you ever get in trouble with the law, that means as a trans woman you will end up in a men's prison. Which will be a gang-ruled hellhole of a prison as well. I don't know how they deal with people who already have their legal gender changed, but i wouldn't necessarily count on that working out if you do not pass 1000%, and as an immigrant you can get into trouble with the law in a lot of additional ways that people normally don't even think about.

                        • fifthedition [none/use name]
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                          2 years ago

                          They got rid of the old easy visa policy. All the "diginomads" got sent away. Now you need a real job to stay in country.

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Colorado Springs is a major hotbed of evangelicals. It's bad to the point that the Air Force Academy based there has the reputation of being infiltrated, with them going on to proselytise in the military. There is also a large atomwaffen contingent and it's surrounded by diseased ranchers. An absolute blight on the world that should be quarantined for the rest of our protection. Not at all surprised this happened.

    • JamesConeZone [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      This is correct. When evangelicals were kicked out of academia and "reasonable" bourgeois politics abandoned their influence post-moral majority (for a time), the evangelical leaders abandoned the traditional American seats of power (DC, NYC) and retreated from society to form their own. Colorado Springs became their largest hub with focus on the family and other dumbfucks.

    • invo_rt [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Unfortunately, I agree. One of the subcultures I run in has a proportionally small, but equally reactionary subset of people and they tend to all be concentrated in Colorado.

      • happybadger [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        It's only going to get worse. So much of the land distribution was concentrated in big agribusiness and other resource extractors. Material conditions are only going to further degrade for both. The drought will mean their water will be cut by the state, the Rockies trapping air will eventually mean a crackdown on oil and coal, fracking is already barred from most of the growing developments. All of the underfunded mountain and plains towns were driven to right-wing Christianity as the only local support network. We're the migration point for the future wave of Texan refugees fleeing climate change so that will only grow and concentrate more wealth in the churches. Same with Utah and the Great Salt Lake becoming a toxic dust storm.

    • Dolores [love/loves]
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      2 years ago

      furthermore, Colorado Springs must be destroyed. Or at least the fucking bases

    • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      It’s bad to the point that the Air Force Academy based there has the reputation of being infiltrated, with them going on to proselytise in the military.

      I don't know how much worse it's gotten but for more information on this I recommend the documentary Constantine's Sword

  • Hohsia [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    In a just world, Lauren Broebert would be tried for her stochastic terrorism and not be allowed to tweet out her condolences for this

    Disgusting

  • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    It seems the shooter is a 22 year old named Anderson Lee Aldrich who has a past history of domestic violence (making a bomb threat to his mother). Here's a source in German, listing KRDO and the Mirror as their primary sources.

    Apparently the club hosted a drag show on Saturday and had a special event planned for the trans day of remembrance today, and the shooter was stopped by two of the visitors.

    My thoughts go out to all my queer comrades in the US, please stay safe out there. You're the best people that hellhole has, i do not want anyone of you to get hurt. :meow-hug:

    Edit: Here's the link to the Mirror article. It has some quotes from staff and visitors, but does not mention most of the details i had posted, going into much more detail about past shootings at gay bars in Orlando and Oslo.

  • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I think anyone who follows LibsofTikTok should be turned into compost.

    • Cromalin [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      i vote for show trials first, and anyone who can show they were doing so for genuine journalistic purposes or to prepare for community self defense gets off

  • Shoegazer [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    This is why I don’t shed a tear when fascist freaks get killed or arrested or face police brutality. I have no interest in the high road and ‘reeducation’ only works when they’re being forced, so I don’t waste my energy worrying about that

  • RION [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    :joker-amerikkklap: reset the counter

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I'm so tired of this shit but I cannot afford the privilege of tuning this out. Is there a word for this? Where you are exhausted but you still keep going? I'm gonna call it "machine being" because I think that sounds cool and it dunks on that "machine learning" bullshit about AI

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Apparently there's an entire field of study in psychology that deals with how this kind of stress specifically affects minorities. The psychologist i have to see as part of my transition has some knowledge in that regard, i hope that we can talk about this at some point and that i can take info from that that i can share with the community.

      • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        That would be super appreciated, I'm very interested in stuff like that on its own but I also got some family history that makes it personally compelling

    • culpritus [any]
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      2 years ago

      The suspect is being treated at a hospital, police added. Officers did not shoot at him, police said.

      Gonna be interesting to see how the mainstream 2A folks react to the details of this.

      Good Gays With Guns would be a unique headline.

      • Shoegazer [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        2A people would use this as proof that the victims are dumb because they didn’t bring AR15s to go dancing

      • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        I saw the press conference stream this morning. No details yet but two club patrons stopped the shooter. They deserve a statue for real, this would have been a Pulse-tier massacre if not for them

  • blight [any]
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    2 years ago

    questions answered by the shirt etc