• SoyViking [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Cigarettes with cocaine in it sounds like an invention that comes at least a century too late

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    How much cocaine is the real question. If it's abundant and easy to grow then the street price could be low, this would be quite dangerous to low income areas.

    • TrashGoblin [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      About 1/25th the concentration in coca plant. However:

      “At present, the available production of cocaine in tobacco is not enough to meet the demand on a mass scale,” says Huang, but the constructed biosynthetic pathway could be assembled in organisms with large biomass and quick growth, such as the bacterium Escherichia coli or the yeast Saccharomyces cerevisiae, he says.

      • D61 [any]
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        2 years ago

        Wait... so E.Coli could produce coke?

        oh boy oh boy, eating undercooked food has never been funner.

        • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          I once studied how to make E. Coli turn waste sugars into plastic precursors. The conclusion of the research paper I read was that making plastic was economically nonviable, I believe, because the cost of the sugar was more than the amount of chemical you could get the bugs to produce. They did hundreds of different optimizations of the Krebs cycle and got it pretty good, but it still wasn't there.

          E. Coli is a simple organism with strains made non-infectious that can accept plasmids. Plasmids are pieces of DNA that you can custom order with whatever genes you want. For example, there are radioactivity resistant Deinococcus radiodurans and radioactivity eating Geobacter sp. (though the mechanism of eating radioactive material appears to be elusive). If you wanted to do a bio-remediation project, you could Frankenstein an E. Coli with plasmids from those two and put them into Chernobyl to attempt to get rid of some of the radioactivity (and then proceed to infect a 100 square km radius of people living nearby with spontaneously transformed, reinfections E. Coli thereby making the problem worse).

          Bioengineering is an interesting field. No doubt incredibly frustrating and fleeting in its efficacy without well established methods.

          Check out the chart in this study titled "Downstream processing of recombinant human insulin and its analogues production from E. coli inclusion bodies" for a neat chart on how E. Coli with plasmids make insulin. I think this process happen(s/ed) at scale in giant vats. https://bioresourcesbioprocessing.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s40643-021-00419-w

          Edit: Holy shit I found the paper from the first paragraph titled "Metabolic engineering of Escherichia coli for direct production of 1,4-butanediol" https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51156399_Metabolic_engineering_of_Escherichia_coli_for_direct_production_of_14-butanediol

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        the yeast Saccharomyces cerevisiae

        So what they're saying is they could make a yeast strain that makes beer with coke in it?

        • cosecantphi [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          There was another experiment a few years ago where scientists did exactly that but with opiates instead of coke. They spliced poppy genes into yeast that enabled opiate biosynthesis alongside the regular fermentation.

          Unfortunately the yield is so extremely low that it is nowhere near practical. And if I remember correctly, it takes multiple fermentation steps chained together with different strains of engineered yeast to complete each step in the biosynthesis. But this stuff has the potential to end the war on drugs if the process could be simplified and made more efficient. At that point we'd just need the yeast to leak once and it'd be out into the world forever.

        • Dolores [love/loves]
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          2 years ago

          cocaine cordials were really popular in the 19th century, the Pope even gave an award to a guy making coke wine at some point

      • Owl [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Organisms with larger biomass, you say? Shoot yourself up with crispr to implant the cocaine-production genes. What could go wrong.

  • fishnwhistle420 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    They’re gonna ban menthol cigarettes and legalize cocaine cigs aren’t they?

  • save_vs_death [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    inb4 owning a potted plant (or indeed any plant or garden, except for endless grass turf) is banned

  • shath [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    "scientific study" yeah i just need to know what it smells like

  • Dolores [love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    GIVE ME THE COKE TOKE SMOKE GIVE IT TO ME NOW :lets-fucking-go:

  • Lymbic_System [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    The cool part about this is even if you can't get the plant to produce enough just selectively breed a handful of plants until you do then clone it a bunch give out cuttings or splice it onto existing plants to avoid diseases. Anyhow just depends how bad you want this 😏 you too could fuck over the us goverment and cartel system with some basic selective breeding and some expensive machines to test for coke concentrations. But hey genetic manipulation has never been cheaper but your just siting there posting on hexbear with a slick new bachaler of biology degree don't let your dreams just be dreams :fidel-cool: