I couldn’t figure out how to archive the post on my phone, but the sex pests on Ovarit are losing their minds that a trans woman who they find attractive pre hrt is choosing to transition.

She’s apparently deleted her account after a number of these women have crawled through her posts looking for pics to coom over.

The post is here. If you want to see some “feminist” women engage in absolute incel behavior and demand that someone they find attractive maintain the appearance they want. It’s a like the mirror image of incel dudes crying about women who they have no chance with choosing to die their hair blue and get piercings.

  • VernetheJules [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    The sissy porn comment is a completely bullshit twisting of cause and effect and I desperately tried to believe it.

    My "sickness" didn't go away when I tried to bury it. It went away when I accepted that I was trans. Even before I started hrt and dropped my libido, sissy porn lost 90% of its appeal for me because I could just live as a regular feminine person whenever I wanted instead of for 30 minutes at a time in a sex-fueled fantasy

  • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    It’s a like the mirror image of incel dudes crying about women who they have no chance with choosing to die their hair blue and get piercings.

    It's actually an exact mirror image of chuds crying about trans men transitioning. This has the exact same component of demanding that people sacrifice one of their most vital material interests, living in the correct body, only so that they can still be fetishized by horny creeps they will never even meet.

    Look at Jordan Peepeeterson crying about Elliot Page's transition. That's the same energy. A horny old fuck who is pissed that an AFAB person dares to permanently stop being sexually desirable to straight men. Not in the sense of "not prettying up anymore", but on a much more fundamental level. Fundamental as in "no, i'm not gonna cover these breasts up under a hoody anymore, i'm gonna get them removed entirely. I'll literally get that off my chest. Because that's what i need, and your needs are irrelevant here." And ofc that part of his transition is the one that our pill-munching charlatan took the most vocal offense to when he set off the tweets that got his account suspended until Eeeeelon brought him back.

    ofc there are also very strong transmysogynist and just flat-out mysogynist things at play here, such as the assumption that women with a cut jawline couldn't be attractive, which betrays how merciless and cruel these vile, evil anti-feminist creeps will judge and tear into other cis women, too. But we shouldn't forget about the struggles of our trans brothers, especially when they fit the situation so perfectly and highlight so much how objectification works.

    • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      It’s actually an exact mirror image of chuds crying about trans men transitioning.

      chuds know that trans men exist?

      • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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        2 years ago

        I feel like a year or so ago they didn't, but trans men are a pretty large component of the current moral panic. They care more about people they perceive as girls being "groomed" by trans people than they do those they perceive as boys.

        A lot of their handwringing about trans men is also blatantly about white birth rate shit, like look at the cover of Irreversible Damage (cw: extreme transphobia/anti-tranmasculinity)

      • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Most don't, but those who do make sure to bring out the full barrage of toxic masculinity against them.

      • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Jordan Peterson's whole meltdown was over the possibility that some teenage girl's eggs could be lost due to transitioning just to be trendy, a very normal thing for an adult man to obsess over.

  • StewartCopelandsDad [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    This is so nasty. Incel dude mirror image is real. It even has the mix of both admiring that someone is attractive and shitting on them for making themselves attractive (in this case, many comments saying that you must be fucked up in the head to lift weights).

    • FemmeFeminist [any]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Good point. It’s very similar to how incels shit on women for wearing makeup despite obviously preferring women who wear it.

  • WittyProfileName2 [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    :dead-dove-1:

    :dead-dove-2:

    Lots of hateful bile in that thread, just completely feral shitheads.

    I found these two comments interesting though.

    [–] yesisaiditxx 4 points 7 hours ago

    For some reason when I see dudes who are super into having big muscles I sorta assume there’s some kind of hidden issue with femininity that is possibly that they, like this guy, have a fetish for wanting to look attractive to other men, and the LIFTING HEAVY BRO is what they channel it into. I know that’s a lot of analyzing and sounds mean but I can’t help but see that in probably half of the python-armed men I’ve met.

    [–] drinkwater 5 points 6 hours ago

    Majority of men are homoerotic, they focus their positive feelings on other men and their sexual and violent feelings on women.

    There's a vibe to this exchange that puts me in mind of 2010's incel discourse where a lot of them were like "sports gay because musclemen in close proximity", I just find it weird that allegedly feminist spaces are recycling 2010's misogynist nerd culture discourse.

    Also

    gym bro dedicates hours to working out... and then feels distress at not being a dainty little girl?

    Literally me circa 2016.

    • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      fetish for wanting to look attractive to other men

      How is wanting other people to find you attractive a fetish? Like, am I crazy or is this not a pretty typical desire to have?

      • WittyProfileName2 [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        A lot of TERF shit is calling something perfectly normal a fetish so they can pathologise it into their ideological framework of fetishes = mental illness = evil.

        • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah like, the whole idea of "autogynephilia" is literally just thinking you look sexy. There's a reason that, according to Blanchard's definition, the majority of cis women would also be AGP

    • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Also

      gym bro dedicates hours to working out… and then feels distress at not being a dainty little girl?
      

      Literally me circa 2016.

      :yea:

  • ElHexo [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I haven't seen this site before, but even if you exclude the femcel and TERF stuff, these are some dumb deranged motherfuckers

    https://ovarit.com/o/GenderCritical/115205/the-new-york-times-the-far-right-and-far-left-agree-on-one-thing-women-dont-coun

    OMG i cannot believe this is a mainstream leftie outlet. 😲

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      https://ovarit.com/o/GenderCritical/115205/the-new-york-times-the-far-right-and-far-left-agree-on-one-thing-women-dont-coun/7f7ac57b-f324-44cc-92ae-bba236d7b641#comment-7f7ac57b-f324-44cc-92ae-bba236d7b641

      Real Big Brain Shit

  • MerryChristmas [any]
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    2 years ago

    Why is there an explicit rule that you have to include usernames for screenshots from hexbear? Are we really that well known?

  • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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    2 years ago

    Love how so many self-styled "feminists" base their politics off of a feeling of ownership over others' bodies

  • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    You really have to see yourself as the center of the universe to have this kind of take. Someone is attractive to me = good, someone is unattractive to me = bad. Hell, I'm straight and therefore not attracted to women. There have been people that I was attracted to before transition and not after transition because, again, I'm not sexually attracted to women. But that isn't a problem! Those people do not exist to be attractive to me. Their transition is not a loss for me. They get to choose how they present themselves. Whether that is pleasing to me is immaterial. Honestly, this is so basic.