Democratic Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was among the majority of lawmakers who backed passing the legislation that notably did not include provisions for paid sick leave. A separate measure that also passed the House Wednesday, however, did include such provisions by giving rail workers seven paid days of sick leave each year.

"If Congress intervenes, it should be to have workers' backs and secure their demands in legislation," she tweeted. In another tweet responding to a union that thanked her for backing rail workers' pleas for paid sick leave provisions, Ocasio-Cortez wrote "Stay strong" and "we've got your back."

A lot of media outlets are wrongfully saying that AOC voted against the back to work bill, but if you check the House Clerk website it's clear that she voted "Yea".

https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2022490

  • Lester_Peterson [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    An 81 year old Bernie Sanders (with absolutely nothing to lose) also indicated that he'll support this atrocious fucking bill in the Senate so long as the proposed 7 days of paid sick days for rail workers recieves a vote. It doesn't even need to pass, he'll refuse to filibuster one of the most anti-worker bills in recent decades over a meaningless promise.

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Serious question - What reasons has he given for supporting the bill? Has he actually used a word or phrase like "we must be realistic"?

      Scab Sanders - say it ain't so. I can't stomach listening to his voice or even reading about him at this point.

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Scab Sanders - say it ain’t so. I can’t stomach listening to his voice or even reading about him at this point.

        All liberal politicians will betray you. It is baked into the system.

      • Lester_Peterson [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Sanders supporters are now arguing that getting a vote on 7 paid sick days is a monumental achievement for worker rights that everybody on the left should be proud of, and are more-or-less ignoring the fact that he's helping squash the right to collective bargaining to get it.

        I imagine he'd say something similar if asked, despite 7 paid sick days being pitifully little by itself and will likely be nothing more than a symbolic gesture that allows him to shrug his shoulders and say that he tried.

  • Flinch [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    YOU FUCKIN VOTE

    FOR THE BLUE GUYS

    CAUSE THEY AINT THE RED GUYS

    :dead-dove-1::dead-dove-2::dead-dove-3::dead-dove-1::dead-dove-2::dead-dove-3::dead-dove-1::dead-dove-2::dead-dove-3::dead-dove-1::dead-dove-2::dead-dove-3::dead-dove-1::dead-dove-2::dead-dove-3::dead-dove-1::dead-dove-2::dead-dove-3::dead-dove-1::dead-dove-2::dead-dove-3::dead-dove-1::dead-dove-2::dead-dove-3:

    :i-voted:

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    2 years ago

    :vote: :i-voted: :i-voted: :i-voted: :i-voted: :i-voted: :i-voted:

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    But we all have to remember that if she doesn't lick the dem machine boot - she can't rise in the dem machine to eventually get on some important committees so she can stay in congress, stay famous, and make oodles of money do something actually leftist.

    What will she be doing in the coming decades?

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      My bet is she'll do the MSNBC grift of using her fame to sell book, give speeches, etc being on MSNBC so she can sell more books and give more speeches.

        • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          She could be on MSNBC's "AOC vs Liz" where she goes head to head week after week against Liz Cheney to the delight of the libs. They could go on a joint speaking tour to build up their "we can do it together" joint brand. Their speaking tour was just killing time until they make speeches which pay real money. They could make left-right speeches separately or together where they each make - who knows - $100,000+ a pop. And they could do that a few dozen times a year.

          I just made myself vomit in my mouth.

          • bubbalu [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            An updated version of Left Right and Center. Can't believe I was enough of a dork to listen to that.

            • adultswim_antifa [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              I listened to it until they talked about Oprah running for president. Both the insane rightoid and the liberal thought it was a very terrible idea and Josh Barro was like "WTF? She's awesome you guys, she will unite this country, she has the power to create a bipartisan consensus by getting people to talk to each other" and I literally stopped the podcast that instant and unsubscribed from the feed.

              • bubbalu [they/them]
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                2 years ago

                Good for you! I wish I had a moment of grand revelation. Or at least decide if I am being inconsistent for liking TrueAnon despite Brace's misogynistic language.

              • ssjmarx [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                it's definitely a terrible idea, but you gotta admit: she's famous enough to win it if she went for it.

            • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              We all have our peccadillos. I was a liberal until I became a socialist around mid 2017 just before Charlottesville. Even after my move to the left - I would listen to Shields and Brooks...

              Mark Shields

              Shields provided weekly political analysis and commentary for the PBS NewsHour from 1988 to 2020. His on-screen counterpart from 2001 to 2020 was David Brooks of The New York Times.

              I guess it was liberal "muscle memory" that kept me watching that crap. What a fucking waste of time. Every show was the same - the dipshit centrist who represents the democrats and "the left" has oh-so polite disagreements with a dipshit who pretends to be center right but is actually right-wing. Yet somehow they were never actually that far apart!

              The very last show I ever watched - I stopped halfway through. They were debating - if you can call it that - the GOP's absolutely vile ghoul "healthcare" plan to steal healthcare from the poor, convert it to money, and give it to the rich.

              • bubbalu [they/them]
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                2 years ago

                Forgot that word for a second and tried to pronounce it as spanish @.@

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      1 year ago

      deleted by creator

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      thinking about that photo of the Squad with every face photoshooped to be Nancy Pelosi's

      • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        :liberalism: :liberalism: :liberalism: :liberalism: :liberalism:

        :liberalism: :liberalism: :liberalism: :liberalism:

        idk how many squaddies there are

  • booty [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Strong enough to stand up against fucking ghouls like AOC, I hope.

  • dead [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Some of the unions did ask congress to pass legislation that would force the companies to provide sick days. AOC also voted for the revision to the bill that added sick days to the bill. She's trying to do what the unions have asked for. So far the unions have only praised the actions of AOC.

    If the unions come out against AOC, that would be meaningful. Hexbear being mad at AOC means nothing.

    • Lester_Peterson [he/him]
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      The bill hasn't been revised, AOC voted for the original H. J. Res. 100 that every rail union has harshly condemned. The paid sick days are part of an entirely separate bill that can easily be voted down without effect. I haven't seen a single union ask congress to pass H. J. Res. 100, and I haven't seen any praise AOC for doing so, do you have any sources for that? Eight democrats, including Rashida Tlaib, managed to vote against the act; were they wrong to do so?

      • dead [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        https://www.bmwe.org/secondary.aspx?id=721

        This is one of the unions involved. This is one of the unions that voted against the September agreement. They are asking people to call their senators to support the 7 day sick leave bill. The union wants this to be passed. If you really care, then do as the union said and call your senator. Listen to the unions.

        I understand that a lot of people on hexbear want to see a strike because we don't like America and we want to see a powerful labor action, but this is not about us. This about the railworkers union workers getting the sick days that they want. If their demands are met without a strike happening, that's great. The important thing is that their demands are met.

        Here's the same union supporting AOC on twitter.

        https://twitter.com/BMWEDIBT/status/1597692112585515008

        • ElmerSmith [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          How is the decoupling of the sick leave from HJ 100 anything other than an incredibly obvious scam? In what universe will 10 Republican senators vote to approve the sick leave bill--in what universe will calling a Republican senator's interns convince them to vote against the interests of capital? What are you talking about? Isn't this obviously a ploy by Dems--isn't it obvious that, since there is no path towards the Senate approving the sick leave bill, any nominally pro-worker representatives in the House should've voted as a bloc to defeat the strike-breaking bill?

          • dead [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I would love if there was a nationwide strike that crippled the US's economy but this isn't about what I want. It's about doing whatever the union thinks is the best way for them to get their payed sick days.

            I'm telling you what the union's statements were. I'm not going to pretend like I know what's best for the union. The two larger unions of the the four unions planning to strike released statements saying that they think the best thing right now is to try to pass the 7 sick day correction.

        • Commander_Data [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Is this not the union leadership, who agreed to the contract their members voted down, saying this? I realize they can't do a referendum for every twitter post and press release, but I wonder how many of the membership agree with this stance.

          • dead [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            There are 12 rail unions in total, 8 rail unions voted in favor of the September agreement, 4 rail unions voted against the September agreement. The 4 unions that voted against the September agreement are SMART-TD, BMWED, IBB, and BRS. SMART-TD is the largest, BRS is the smallest.

            SMART-TD supports the 7 day bill:
            "As for this moment, we ask these elected leaders to stand with our essential workers and urge the House and the Senate to vote in favor of guaranteeing seven days of paid sick leave to rail workers."
            https://smart-union.org/smart-td-statement-on-congressional-intervention-in-the-national-rail-negotiations/

            BMWED supports the 7 day bill and is asking people to call their congress representatives to support it.
            "The BMWED applauds the representatives in Congress and any Senators that will stand in support of Railroad Workers receiving paid sick leave. The additional legislation needs to pass so that Railroad Workers will have basic protections against illness, and protection from punishment from the railroads when Workers are most vulnerable."
            https://www.bmwe.org/secondary.aspx?id=723

            I do not see a statement from IBB.
            https://boilermakers.org/

            BRS is not happy with congress getting involved:
            https://www.brs.org/?zone=/unionactive/view_article.cfm&HomeID=883627

        • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          What does support for the seven day bill have to do with the separate bill that isn't dead in the water that she voted for?

          • dead [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            The 7 days resolution is a correction to the bill that the article is referring. The main bill is H.J. Res. 100 which blocks the strike. The second bill is H. Con. Res. 119 which adds 7 days of sick leave to the main bill. I believe both have to pass for the 7 sicks days to go into effect.

            Main bill:
            https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-joint-resolution/100

            Correction bill:
            https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-concurrent-resolution/119

            • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              It's a separate "correction" bill because it can and will be voted down without consequence. Voting for the Never Going to Pass Vacation bill doesn't cancel out voting for the Get Back to Work bill.

            • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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              That second bill will never get pass the filibuster. This is the bbb scam all over again. As I said, just strike, American govt are a performative clown joke of a show

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      By "union," is this union leadership or rank-and-file union members? The distinction is very important when we're talking about unions in the US.

    • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      It's disappointing that this comment is not getting more traction.

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      This is a good comment but I dunno if they've had much time to respond, and they could be waiting until the final vote to speak more freely