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I really love how all redditors think the conflict between Taiwan and China is that China won't recognize Taiwan as an independent country. Like, they think it's just a plucky little region that wants independence from a bigger country, like it's Ireland or Catalonia or something. They think "Taiwan's" only goal is to live in the island of Taiwan forever
They don't want independence from China for fucks sake, they want to BE China. The ROC doesn't recognize Taiwan as an independent country either. Nobody does! It doesn't exist as a nation because of a nationalist struggle, it's just where the capitalist pigs fled to
The RoC, even under the DPP, continues to claim that it is the legitimate government over all of China. This includes incredibly petty shit like not recognizing the independence of Mongolia until 2002 (admittedly, thus was before the current DPP admin). To this day, on a formal legal basis, the RoC has not renounced its previous claims to all of the PRC, Mongolia, and bits of Russia.
Maybe the DPP would be willing to renounce those claims upon declaring independence, but the fact of the matter is that they haven't done so yet.
It's not about what Taiwan wants, it's about what's geopoligically expedient for America. Even since HW Bush, the higher ups of American intelligence have mocked the idea of "unleashing chiang" and attempting to retake the mainland.
The new framing of Taiwan is that it's a plucky "vibrant" democracy since the island was turned into a liberal democracy during the Clinton administration when the DPP, a party of local landed industrialists sympathetic to Japanese colonizers, became the second of two awful parties people can vote for. The recent strategy for the US has basically been to goad China into a costly and unwise military invasion by promoting Taiwanese independence movements.
I should note that Democracy in Taiwan was only introduced after all native resistance to the colonizers was wiped out and all leftists were executed, all with the encouragement of the USA. The current USA backed independence movement claims the struggle against the white terror as its own despite getting their orders from the same institutions that cosigned KMT dictatorship in the first place.
I think they want their cake and eat it too. To be independent but still claim to be the rightful government of all of China in case the opportunity arises in the future to "reclaim the mainland".
I think declaring independence stirs the pot too much so they would prefer to just continue to maintain the status quo. China would have to respond to an independence declaration when it happens, but they don't have to change the status quo in any given year
This is the same stance they have towards the South China Sea, and unlike their claims to Mongolia, which is something nobody including themselves takes seriously, they have build military bases on two islands and it's something they take very seriously.
Would there ever be a scenario for a Taiwan that did just want nationalist independence?
establish false equivalencies
Such as comparing the tyranny the Tibetan peasants had to endure under the monks with the situation now? Is it a false equivalency to say that at least the CPC doesn't cut peoples' noses off for disobeying their rulers?
I know for a fact the Soviet Union deported Americans for being racist towards black people or able-bodied lazy shitpots that thought socialism = free stuff, so whats China's excuse for keeping walking CIA propagandists in their house
There’s a story written on a Radio Free Europe about a black American couple’s experience in the USSR. He said he never experienced any racism, except the one time he encountered another white American in the country while getting a haircut. The Russians subsequently beat up the American racist. The black couple later named his son Joseph Stalin and he’s now a teacher in Kremlin, Virginia
https://www.rferl.org/amp/soviet-union-yosif-stalin-black-american-kremlin-virginia/27663044.html
Like many other black Americans who came to the Soviet Union during this period, Yosif's father said that he experienced less racism there than back home. He told Khanga that the only incident he could recall was when two white Americans hurled racial slurs at him in a Moscow barbershop and were thrown out after the barbers learned what they had said.
This testimony of Paul Robeson at the HUAC is great. When he talks about visiting the Soviet Union the representatives lose their shit
the problem with china is they're actually not authoritarian and oppressive enough :deeper-sadness:
Now, for lovers of China out there (and I count myself among them, believe it or not), please know that I am not anti-China
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China is authoritarian and committing atrocities against minority nationalities
I love them
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do not DARE suggest that China is somehow NOT in any way kidnapping ORPHANS to sacrifice them in DEMONIC RITUALS you CCP SHIILLLLL!!!!!!!!1111!1111
On the one hand, the mod is an idiot and is defaming China. On the other hand, said defamation will probably keep a lot of American libs from moving to China and libbing up the place so... idk.
This is like the national version of the high school principle telling everyone in the grade that Tankiedesantsky is a bad boy rebel who smokes while riding his motorcycle at high speed in his leather jacket. Like... I don't like being lied about, but if the lie benefits me...
will probably keep a lot of American libs from moving to China and libbing up the place
There's a billion and a half Chinese, American immigrants aren't gonna have a measurable impact here.
True, though I would say that even one American lib is one too many.
...and for claiming Taiwan is "part of China."
literally every party involved claims Taiwan is part of China you absolute dingus. Only Americans are so clueless as to think that what Taiwan actually wants is independence. They want to be the whole China! The area they claim as theirs is actually LARGER than the PRC!
I went into the thread. He argues that the only reason Taiwan hasn't claimed independence is that would trigger war with China? As if pretending you're the rightful owner of the entire mainland is actually less inflammatory than peacing out. the brain on this guy
if I hear the word disinformation one more time I will jump off a building I'm not even kidding this is my last straw I have a specific building selected
