I don't have a dog in this fight - I don't care about this millionaire or the millionaire director or video games the property or whatever - but this is a very vague accusation that lacks some pretty important specifics if this is supposed to be some sort of smoking gun.
Like big ticket actors sometimes do fuss a lot about the project and throw their weight around - does it just become sexism if the showrunner and/or writer are women? He made comments, but what were they? What kind of comments? That matters a lot here. The speaker doesn't mention whether this behaviour was consistent between male, female or other coworkers or not.
IDK, I'll go back to not caring about this just saying this testimony is pretty weak if you're meant to make some sort of conclusion that he's a misogynist. He may well be one, but there's not a ton of evidence for that here.
If you make allegations against someone, you should give exact specifics. It makes the allegation more credible and more actionable.
Ate vagueposting, ate misused psychology terms, love accountability, simple as
Not even saying this guy is innocent. But if he really is a misogynistic toxic weirdo I want the deets
Yeah that account sounds pretty intense so I don't have much doubt but you gotta have those deets
i literally could not care less about henry calvill, the witcher, or whatever random reddit capeshit, but the only direct actionable thing that hes accused of is overruling the showrunner. which isnt as serious a thing as the post makes it out to be, and is not uncommon to see. id be happy to be proved wrong but it just reads like the whole bernie is a misogynist thing again
Especially in this case, because what changes was he trying to override? If it's all stuff related to the property and he wanted a more accurate portrayal then that's basically what was said just he went to a step above the showrunner.
If the showrunner wasn't listening to his critiques than I don't really blame him of he is that dedicated to the property, but without a clear paper trail it's impossible to know if it's because of general directional differences or if he was being an absolute dickhead about it.
the article that posted the original image of transcript says they think the source is dubious at best, and the original poster took it down very quickly
I find this whole thing a little dubious. I like reading, and sometimes I enjoy fantasy. Not uncritically, I'm aware of its tropes and problems, but there's some really quality stories told in that medium all the same.
I read some oh The Witcher series and it was well above average. The characters were complicated, and the contentious nature between human colonizers and native civilizations wasn't handled with kid gloves. Hell, the entire world is intertwined with magic and the impact of industrialization and expansion of human society causes the monsters themselves to mutate into more horrific and industrial waste appropriate beasts. It's a good story.
The show's second season was genuinely bad, and that was very disappointing. It broke its own rationale, it turned beloved fan favorite characters into unlikable brutes, and it greatly diminished the quality of the relationships as the characters grow, learn, experience trauma and cope/thrive/recreate it with others. It was just... Bad, even if you weren't a book reader but ESPECIALLY if you were.
I don't have some reddit hard on for Henry Cavill, but he seems like someone who loved the books and games and was excited to bring that world to life for others. To have it sideswiped and turned into a shallow and generic feeling fantasy is a disappointment to any fan - and I don't doubt someone that close to the process would become more jaded and cold as the program shifted without them. To read into that as sexism doesn't seem like the easiest explanation, rather it sounds like the project shifted and the lead didn't like it. That's naturally going to create strife in teams and professional respect breaks down the longer diverging views of a project are in contention.
It for sure doesn't help their case against him that he was right about most of his grievances with the way the show was being adapted. The more the show is about a gruff silent type with the politics stripped away, the worse it is; the more it's a pontificating badass learning about the futility of neoliberal passivity and an unsubtle screed about the importance of Ciri's reproductive autonomy, the better. Doesn't change whether he was an asshole or not. Either way the pendulum will soon swing towards people saying he was ostracized by a workplace hostile to his neurodiversity.
It will be interesting to see how the live-action 40K series he's doing goes since this time he's executive producing as well. I'm almost sure that's about wanting more creative control this time when adapting his special interest.
Would be funny to see an anti-fascist 40k show, but that's not gonna happen lol
Honestly "Andor on steroids" could elevator pitch well enough to have a chance. Any antifascism in 40K has to be a defeatist cautionary tale though on account of how the whole setting works.
fuck that, Cavill is the villain as a stormtroop- I mean Space Marine, the heroes are explicitly communist Tau and then they defeat fascist nihilism through the power of love and five-year plans. They even devise a way of producing infinite bio-matter for the Tyranid by instantiating Chaos Gods into realspace to be devoured endlessly. The Tyranid-Tau Settlement is signed, guaranteeing that the Tyranid will never expand beyond their borders on pain of getting their infinite food supply taken away. The Orks are given an entire sector to hang out in, where they also send all the space fascists that are still alive to do jolly combat. The Emperor is deprived of his psykers through sanctions (approved by the Commonwealth of course) leading him to get even drier.
In the end, Blue Khrushchev denounces the "mind-control" of the wily Ethereal Aun O'Tau Steel-Worker of the Central Commitee and the dang rogue traders liberalize the economy. Trillions die.
You could have a Tau Collaborator storyline, especially if you leaned into 3rd/4th edition interpretations of the Tau
Henry Cavill, but he seems like someone who loved the books and games and was excited to bring that world to life for others. To have it sideswiped and turned into a shallow and generic feeling fantasy is a disappointment to any fan - and I don’t doubt someone that close to the process would become more jaded and cold as the program shifted without them.
yah this was my take. he was pissed the show was being ruined and turning into bullshit. might've lashed out and been a prick to work with over it
who knows. the excerpt is vagueposting rn and need more details
I feel the same way. I want to like the guy but I honestly haven't followed how he is in person. The whole accusation could be completely true. I could also see how he could start dude-bro strong arming the show away from the show runner because he is a big star and the last season was apparently trash.
The vibe I got from the whole thing is that he was walking away from the project because he didn't like the direction of it. In conjunction with this, it sounds like he tried to become combative about how the show was being done and he got forced out. The part about the whole thing I found a little suspect was how they went into a tangent that he is "deeply addicted to videogames." as if that itself is a grand reflection of his character as opposed to his actual actions on set or his tardiness (which other movie stars are well known for).
I know we meme about GaMErs but there are plenty of people who play games that are not chuds. There is certainly a dark hole many gamers can fall down but it tends to be related to hyper-competitive online games with a lot of player interaction.
I imagine at some point he will have something to say about it.
the showrunner has to sign off on every miniscule detail, down to the buttons on a costume.
I wouldn't respect a person who signed off on the Nilfgaardian scrotum armor for the show, regardless of gender.
Same, I watched all of S1 and enjoyed it (despite the confusing time jumps in the narrative) but bounced off hard from S2.
despite the confusing time jumps in the narrative
What was the deal with this? were they just showing events from the future without making it clear and then going back in time?
I was putting it on at bedtime, sometimes falling asleep, and I was so confused about characters seemingly coming back to life or events seeming to have been undone. I thought I accidentally restarted the show from the beginning or something at one point
From everything i've read that's been directly quoted from the showrunner, the showrunner can go and kick rocks
I know actors have PR management and all that, but if Cavill is like this behind the scenes, he's exceptional at hiding it in public appearances. A similar story came about Pete Davidson causing problems on the set of his show, and it was easier for me to imagine it because Pete's public persona is a barely functioning chronic in over his head.
The gamer part sounds like the script for that one CSI episode or w/e, on the whole its just really messy and vague in a way that just tells me to wait for details.
The kids call it 'Gwent', one game and you're hooked. Next thing you know, you're pawning your trusty steed for a crack at another booster.
i know cavill is a huge fan of warhammer total war (they even named a character after him) and ive seen the totalwar forums so i would totally believe this about him
Netflix trying to cover their ass because this show is going to tank. A day late and a dollar short. It's their own fault. Hiring writers that hate and despise the source material, and driving away the main draw of the show.
This is so lazy. The award winning director of the first season that also constantly clashed with the show runner because she wants nothing to do with the actual story, is he supposed to be sexist too?
Everybody who leaves the show, is sexist and abusive? Cavill quit the show months ago, and they must be feeling the heat to drop this rumor now, that they've already had to back track. The Witcher deserved better.
The whole "sour about the lore" thing is kinda weird to me because it's Edgar Winter fighting monsters. You can just do that. That's actually pretty fun to watch.
People are saying the source is untrustworthy, I never watched the show and don't really know anything about Caville so maybe a bunch of other sources will come forward and confirm or maybe this will just be a one off everyone forgets about in a month.
