Veganism is a waste of time
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My theory on why veganism is a waste of time and energy. From live stream in 2021🧧 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/NathanRich🧧 SubscribeStar: https://www....
    • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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      2 years ago

      This is like when that band that won’t play their hits finally agrees to do it on their comeback tour

  • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    this is how I feel about not saying the n-word all the time as a white person; it's not like me not saying the n-word is going to dismantle racism, you know?

    also, I litter

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I'm pretty sure they were being sarcastic.

        But also yes anyone who litters gets :stalin-gun-1::stalin-gun-2:

        • GaveUp [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Ugh, I understand the comment now

          Too many negatives in there made it a bit confusing haha

        • GaveUp [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          I didn't understand the comment at first because of all the negatives 😞

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    :im-vegan: and for every bean you don't eat, I'm going to eat three

  • DoghouseCharlie [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    These are very silly arguments. First off we don't say "well everyone else is doing it why shouldn't I" about anything else. And then the answer is to just wait for better products to come out so we can consoom better. A vote with your wallet lib argument? Seriously?

    It's like electric cars. They don't have as bad emissions but they're expensive and still require cities to be structured around every bazinga owning a vehicle. Fake meats are expensive and vat grown takes up absurd amount of resources at scale.

    One thing I will agree on, I don't think a moral argument works. The meat industry is unsustainable and in a sane world we'd have already scaled back. Once the industry shrinks it won't matter what your opinion is, meat just won't be available to eat everyday for every meal.

  • MC_Kublai [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Popping in so I can be part of the next legendary struggle session :lenin-confused:

  • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Ah yes, I love it when my leftism is indistinguishable from libertarianism in assuming rational functioning markets and the inevitable progress of technology.

  • SaniFlush [any, any]
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    2 years ago

    He’s only saying shit like this because he assumes vegans won’t do anything beyond wagging their fingers even harder.

  • Dimmer06 [he/him,comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I think there's something to be said about how veganism has mostly been subsumed by liberal politics and turned into a consumption thing, even going so far as to say that many vegans don't really understand it as a political position. The lack of theoretical development in the broader vegan movement severely restricts our practical work which is why individual evangelizing still seems to be the primary method of spreading veganism. The answer to this issue obviously isn't to abandon veganism though, it's to build a revolutionary vegan/animal lib movement that recognizes control over production, not consumption, is how we end animal agriculture and that mass organization, revolutionary action, and a popular front are how we reach that.

  • HoChiMaxh [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Any nerd talking to his camera and recording it should de facto be posted in c/the_dunk_tank or nowhere at all

  • betelgeuse [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Which is it folks

    A: "If I can convince enough people to be vegan through arguments and/or bullying then we can outlaw meat"

    B: "There is no point in being vegan unless 80% of the population is already vegan"

    C: "Ugh, you're belittling the argument and not treating it with the seriousness it deserves. You're actually doing more harm than A or B."