My great-great grandfather was on the trail of tears.
Fascism has always been here. This country was founded on the corpses of an entire race. It's legitimately one of the most evil things in human history.
desantis literally was torturing people in guantanamo 20 years ago. banning a party that has never done anything for me barely changes the fascist trajectory this country has always been on. yeah. escape florida if you can. escape america if you can. desantis is the democrat of 10 years from now anyway. Just like the democrats today praise the guy who passed the patriot act because he's "not trump"
it's always been serious. this conversation reminds me of when trump got elected 4 years ago. You had libs going "We're a fascist dictatorship now, you have to take this moment seriously." and you had socialist saying "always has been, this is just the newest low in our constant downward trajectory."
I mean, you both have a point, this is very much literally fascism and the obvious prelude to going full jakarta on anyone left of John birch and also the inevitable trajectory the USA has always been on.
Legal scholar Juan Cole describes Trump's election this way: "How the U.S. went fascist." Documentary filmmaker Ken Burns terms Trump's presidency "Hitleresque." Historian Ron Rosenbaum, author of "Explaining Hitler," insists that Trump's tenure so far is based on a "playbook written in German. That playbook is 'Mein Kampf.'"
Florida. My partner has a year left on her PhD. Thankfully my parents live out of state so as long as I have a couple days advance notice on the “imprisoning communists” phase I can leave on short notice. But it’s getting very scary and I’m really worried a year is too long.
Oh I’m quite aware, he’s already replaced our administration with cronies. Not that the ones before were any better, everything desantis said on covid they followed with no hesitation, against the wishes of the faculty and staff unions, and most of the students.
The thing to look out for that might not be obvious is laws against socialism providing a rhetorical pretext for apprehending or killing people like you and me
This is 100% the thing I’m worried about, and more practically I’m worried about a law requiring banning socialists/communists from government employment. But that’ll pretty certainly happen before the actual pogroms, and if that happens obviously I’ll have to leave anyway.
Yeah, that's what gets me. The constant catastrophizing. Everything is the literal return of Adolf Hitler. It gets old, and then it just gets dull. But people can't get enough of it. It has to be fulfilling some deep emotional need.
We've been teetering on the brink of going full nazi my entire adult life, ever since I became politically aware. Remember Trump? People were freaking out and staunch anti-gun people who swore they would never be in the same room with a gun showed up at gun shops and started buying.
And no, I didn't call you hysterical or any other misogynist slur. You need to edit your comment to remove that false accusation. I didn't address you at all.
You seriously think that the Democratic party is going to be outlawed in Florida? You don't see this as an obvious political stunt and "fuck you" to force people to realize that Democrats supported slavery once upon a time?
You need to go to a gun shop and buy a gun. Explain you're a first-time buyer, they'll find something that fits both your hand and your budget.
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My great-great grandfather was on the trail of tears.
Fascism has always been here. This country was founded on the corpses of an entire race. It's legitimately one of the most evil things in human history.
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It's fine. This abomination is going to die in nuclear fire soon.
Relax, enjoy the apocalypse.
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I sympathize with that. Don't give up that hope and anger.
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it was and is
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desantis literally was torturing people in guantanamo 20 years ago. banning a party that has never done anything for me barely changes the fascist trajectory this country has always been on. yeah. escape florida if you can. escape america if you can. desantis is the democrat of 10 years from now anyway. Just like the democrats today praise the guy who passed the patriot act because he's "not trump"
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it's always been serious. this conversation reminds me of when trump got elected 4 years ago. You had libs going "We're a fascist dictatorship now, you have to take this moment seriously." and you had socialist saying "always has been, this is just the newest low in our constant downward trajectory."
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I mean, you both have a point, this is very much literally fascism and the obvious prelude to going full jakarta on anyone left of John birch and also the inevitable trajectory the USA has always been on.
yeah, i never disagreed with her. Which is what I was gonna say next but she politely asked me to disengage.
Legal scholar Juan Cole describes Trump's election this way: "How the U.S. went fascist." Documentary filmmaker Ken Burns terms Trump's presidency "Hitleresque." Historian Ron Rosenbaum, author of "Explaining Hitler," insists that Trump's tenure so far is based on a "playbook written in German. That playbook is 'Mein Kampf.'"
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Even more classic Hitler play: being the best friend Israel ever had in the Oval Office.
Ehh it has a material change. Losing infrastructure and organization will make formulated any sort of opposition far more difficult
that's why i said people should gtfo out of america while they still can.
I’m so fucking scared :scared:
I just need one more year but holy shit I hope that’s not too late I need to get the fuck out of here
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Florida. My partner has a year left on her PhD. Thankfully my parents live out of state so as long as I have a couple days advance notice on the “imprisoning communists” phase I can leave on short notice. But it’s getting very scary and I’m really worried a year is too long.
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Oh I’m quite aware, he’s already replaced our administration with cronies. Not that the ones before were any better, everything desantis said on covid they followed with no hesitation, against the wishes of the faculty and staff unions, and most of the students.
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This is 100% the thing I’m worried about, and more practically I’m worried about a law requiring banning socialists/communists from government employment. But that’ll pretty certainly happen before the actual pogroms, and if that happens obviously I’ll have to leave anyway.
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Shout out to state bureaucracy for making it hard to do even genocide and political repression quickly
Yeah, that's what gets me. The constant catastrophizing. Everything is the literal return of Adolf Hitler. It gets old, and then it just gets dull. But people can't get enough of it. It has to be fulfilling some deep emotional need.
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We've been teetering on the brink of going full nazi my entire adult life, ever since I became politically aware. Remember Trump? People were freaking out and staunch anti-gun people who swore they would never be in the same room with a gun showed up at gun shops and started buying.
And no, I didn't call you hysterical or any other misogynist slur. You need to edit your comment to remove that false accusation. I didn't address you at all.
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You seriously think that the Democratic party is going to be outlawed in Florida? You don't see this as an obvious political stunt and "fuck you" to force people to realize that Democrats supported slavery once upon a time?
You need to go to a gun shop and buy a gun. Explain you're a first-time buyer, they'll find something that fits both your hand and your budget.
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