• aaro [they/them, she/her]
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    2 years ago

    The bill would “immediately cancel the filings of a political party, to include its registration and approved status as a political party, if the party’s platform has previously advocated for, or been in support of, slavery or involuntary servitude.”

    lathe time: this gets the republican and libertarian parties deleted too for their support of prison labor. Florida has no political parties.

    • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      "No. Case dismissed." - The Florida judge taking on the case that the Republican Party should also be banned.

    • GaveUp [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      I'm no anarchist but I would wholeheartedly support anarchy in Florida

      • HornyOnMain
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        2 years ago

        lathing up socialists in 2026 arguing about whether to give critical support to the Floridian Autonomous Zone for being a new example of AES

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    The bill would "immediately cancel the filings of a political party, to include its registration and approved status as a political party, if the party’s platform has previously advocated for, or been in support of, slavery or involuntary servitude."

    I mean that's kind of a funny trap, because it makes Democrats identify themselves with southern Dixiecrats from 160 years ago. I guess that's the idea instead of actually making it pass. Florida is getting wild.

    • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Slavery is explicitly constitutional right now and neither party wants to change that.

      • SerLava [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Lol yeah the Republican Party literally wrote the 13th amendment that explicitly allows slavery, like this would either be completely thrown out or it would apply to both parties if the judge didnt happen to be a full hack

          • SerLava [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            that's not my point, I'm just saying there is an actual chance these idiots pass this and this happens

      • jabrd [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah I was about to say "involuntary servitude" is going to apply to virtually every american politician

  • CrimsonSage [any]
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    2 years ago

    This genuinely isn't funny. Like this is just a further sign that the safety barriers of liberalism are coming off. And before someone starts harassing me about liberalism is fascism state violence etc etc, the problem is this is happening with zero institutional or organized left to fight back against it. Like this is just the fascist wolf being let out of its pen, and lots of people are going to die because of where this is going.

      • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        OMG Stop being a purity pony! Learn to be pragmatic and kick the can down the road for like until your grandkids die or something while Republicans walk all over us. /s

    • Azarova [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Many people have been saying it for a while, Florida and Texas are the labratories for fascism in this country. What's going on there is likely to spread to the federal level when they get executive power again, and I don't have any hope that there will be a decent opponent to whichever flavor of fascist comes out of the republican primary for 2024.

      • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        the country was literally founded on slavery and indigenous genocide. the entire country has always been a laboratory for fascism. This is the country that did My Lai, Abu Ghraib, and Nissour Square. This is the country that actively has prison slavery. I was told "We are going to become a fascist country" when Trump was elected and I said "always have been." Both parties are in lockstep toward WW3 with China. at this point escaping the country doesn't even matter. If you're not inside America's fascist zone of influence (NATO/EU/Australia/NZ), you're somewhere America will drop bombs or do regime change.

      • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        I can only hope that some people's analysis of "the Republicans did terribly in 2022 because of them declaring War on Wokeness" is correct.

        • Azarova [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          I'm pretty wary to believe that, as much as I'd like to, because the dems will probably run some awful boring canidate if they don't run Biden's corpse, and I'm afraid it won't be enough. But maybe I'm too pessimistic, as any shred of hope for the future has already been stomped out of me.

    • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      "Proper" Fascism is averse to liberal democracy period, considering things like parliaments and electoralism and such "d***nerate" and disruptive to an ideal system with an empowered executive ready to act on behalf of the "nation". And when it comes to class conflict, the Bourgeoisie have to at least appear to act within the bounds set by the political system (thus allowing socialist movements breathing room to organize), whereas under fascism the gloves come fully off.

      So yeah, while the US has always been a violent, unscrupulous Bourgeois state, it never felt the need to cross into outright Fascism since the Bourgeoisie felt "safe" enough to allow the plebs small liberties (if anything, the illusion of popular democratic participation has been helpful in taming discontent). That is, until now when the empire's zenith is past the horizon.

  • FloridaBoi [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    "For years now, leftist activists have been trying to "cancel" people and companies for things they have said or done in the past. This includes the removal of statues and memorials, and the renaming of buildings. Using this standard, it would be hypocritical not to cancel the Democrat Party itself for the same reason," explained Sen. Ingoglia.

    I wonder what the statues, memorials and names on the buildings were for... I guess we'll never know!

  • HarryLime [any]
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    2 years ago

    The Florida Democratic party would not exist if a new Senate bill is passed and signed into law.

    Spring Hill Republican Senator Blaise Ingoglia has filed SB 1248, which would be called "The Ultimate Cancel Act."

    While it does not mention the Democratic party's name, it would direct the Florida Division of Elections to "immediately cancel the filings of a political party, to include its registration and approved status as a political party, if the party’s platform has previously advocated for, or been in support of, slavery or involuntary servitude."

    Southern Democrats advocated for slavery during the Civil War.

    Under the Bill, registered Democrats would be automatically re-registered as having "no party affiliation." The Democratic party officers could reorganize, but only under a substantially different name.

    I'm actually okay with this.

      • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Desantis crossing his arms as a metal helmet with v shaped antenna materializes on his head

        HISSATSU! FLOW RIDER OUGI: ULTIMATO CANCELU ACTTOOOOOOOOO

    • Blottergrass [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I got to hand it to him, it's fucking insane, but it is a high tier bit.

    • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      My great-great grandfather was on the trail of tears.

      Fascism has always been here. This country was founded on the corpses of an entire race. It's legitimately one of the most evil things in human history.

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      I hope y’all had fun calling the US fascist while it was still governed by normie liberals

      it was and is

        • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          desantis literally was torturing people in guantanamo 20 years ago. banning a party that has never done anything for me barely changes the fascist trajectory this country has always been on. yeah. escape florida if you can. escape america if you can. desantis is the democrat of 10 years from now anyway. Just like the democrats today praise the guy who passed the patriot act because he's "not trump"

            • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              it's always been serious. this conversation reminds me of when trump got elected 4 years ago. You had libs going "We're a fascist dictatorship now, you have to take this moment seriously." and you had socialist saying "always has been, this is just the newest low in our constant downward trajectory."

                • Monsieur_bleu [none/use name]
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                  2 years ago

                  I mean, you both have a point, this is very much literally fascism and the obvious prelude to going full jakarta on anyone left of John birch and also the inevitable trajectory the USA has always been on.

              • pinglun [none/use name]
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                2 years ago

                Legal scholar Juan Cole describes Trump's election this way: "How the U.S. went fascist." Documentary filmmaker Ken Burns terms Trump's presidency "Hitleresque." Historian Ron Rosenbaum, author of "Explaining Hitler," insists that Trump's tenure so far is based on a "playbook written in German. That playbook is 'Mein Kampf.'"

          • motherofmonsters [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            Ehh it has a material change. Losing infrastructure and organization will make formulated any sort of opposition far more difficult

            • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              that's why i said people should gtfo out of america while they still can.

        • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Florida. My partner has a year left on her PhD. Thankfully my parents live out of state so as long as I have a couple days advance notice on the “imprisoning communists” phase I can leave on short notice. But it’s getting very scary and I’m really worried a year is too long.

            • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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              2 years ago

              Oh I’m quite aware, he’s already replaced our administration with cronies. Not that the ones before were any better, everything desantis said on covid they followed with no hesitation, against the wishes of the faculty and staff unions, and most of the students.

        • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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          2 years ago

          The thing to look out for that might not be obvious is laws against socialism providing a rhetorical pretext for apprehending or killing people like you and me

          This is 100% the thing I’m worried about, and more practically I’m worried about a law requiring banning socialists/communists from government employment. But that’ll pretty certainly happen before the actual pogroms, and if that happens obviously I’ll have to leave anyway.

    • pinglun [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah, that's what gets me. The constant catastrophizing. Everything is the literal return of Adolf Hitler. It gets old, and then it just gets dull. But people can't get enough of it. It has to be fulfilling some deep emotional need.

        • pinglun [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          We've been teetering on the brink of going full nazi my entire adult life, ever since I became politically aware. Remember Trump? People were freaking out and staunch anti-gun people who swore they would never be in the same room with a gun showed up at gun shops and started buying.

          And no, I didn't call you hysterical or any other misogynist slur. You need to edit your comment to remove that false accusation. I didn't address you at all.

            • pinglun [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              You seriously think that the Democratic party is going to be outlawed in Florida? You don't see this as an obvious political stunt and "fuck you" to force people to realize that Democrats supported slavery once upon a time?

              You need to go to a gun shop and buy a gun. Explain you're a first-time buyer, they'll find something that fits both your hand and your budget.

  • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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    edit-2
    2 years ago

    The United States is a one party state, but in typical American extravagance, they have two instead actually just the one now

  • lott [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Florida bans the Florida Democratic Party

    The Democratic Party becomes radicalized and starts operating underground

    PPW starts in the everglades

    Democrat-Communists take over the state of Florida

    Republicans don't know what they're potentially unleashing