Fash and libs united in seething over Finland getting wrecked after attempting to replicate Manifest Destiny on Karelia and Murmansk. Love to see it.
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“Bu-but KD RATIO! WHITE DEATH!”
I actually can blame Finland for it's role in prolonging the holocaust by tying up soviet resourses that otherwise would have allowed a more speedy defeat of Nazi Germany.
It's not difficult
Can also much more directly blame Finland for being complicit in the Siege of Leningrad, which killed over 1.5 million people, many of whom were civilians starved to death.
:rage-cry: "b-b-buh but the finnish troops didnt actually attack Leningrad, so you cant blame them for it! they just stood there with their guns pointed at the russkies, doing nothing!! we are blameless!!"*
*actual argument i heard when i said that finland participated in the siege
i personally love how the finns dug in for years building fortifications and they got folded back to the old border in two weeks :data-laughing:
of course the cope is that the advance was finally stopped at the border, rather than the advance losing momentum, and they probably could've marched all the way to the sea with the next attack :edgeworth-shrug:
Recently I learned Sweden was a major supplier of iron to the Nazis. :ancap-good:
I've been hearing a lot of this "Finland were le epic wholesome Axis country" shit, it sucks.
The entire saga of the World Wars was Europeans looking to kill one another while crying "Self Defense".
It's all bullshit, of course. The same folks defending Finnish Nazis will turn around and condemn the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact. They'll lionize Churchill for surviving Operation Sealion while condemning FDR for attending Yalta. They'll cheer the bombing of Japan while bemoaning condemning Soviets as war criminals in Europe.
It's all just team sports to a bunch of spectators.
also no one talks about the British arms Chamberlain "the great pacifist" gave Finland which the Finns drew Swastikas all over
The Finnish military was executing communists en masse not even two decades prior so it was logically filled to the gills with reactionaries and Nazi sympathizers.
The joke about the British is how the island was full of fascist simps. There just weren't enough German fascist simps.
It was pure :fash-infighting:
Chruchill's reason for opposing the Nazis was fear they would make Britain give up it's colonial holdings
Been flaring up since the Ukraine invasion and the Finnish PM having the audacity to condemn "historical Russian aggression".
But wait, I thought Finland won the Winter War when the Ghost of Helsinki 360 no scoped Stalin's big spoon. Why would the winners of a war be angry about lost territory?
The history of Russia might as well be titled "They had us in the first half"
https://youtu.be/vGYFkcCUHAc
Finland's war aims - annex Kola peninsula and Karelia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Karelian_concentration_camps
https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=176121
CW: heartbreaking image. Ethnic cleaning victims in Finnish concentration camp: https://www.histclo.com/imagef/date/2015/01/kar-cc44s.jpg
Say any of this to Finns and they immediately dismiss you as Russian propaganda.
I am once again asking folks to drop a thread link so we can dunk
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Stalin did make one mistake, it was not going all the way to Helsinki to finish the job of defeating fascism (then to Amsterdam, Paris, London, Madrid, DC, ect, after that)
Derscheisser. Meme sub equivalent of ShitWehraboosSay, the sub which is what it says on the tin. Mostly full of shitlibs, and shitlibs radicalized into comrades (ahem), who will cry foul at “tankies” (people who say good things about the USSR beyond killing Nazis) but will unironically stan Churchill and Arthur Harris without any self awareness whatsoever.
The one redeeming quality about those two subs is trashing the constant wehraboo shit you see on Reddit, but you eventually run into takes like this.
the allies were still colonial powers and anticolonial struggles against them remained valid but that's not what finland was doing.
