The war in Yemen looks like it’s coming to an end. U.S. media reported yesterday that a cease fire extending through 2023 had been agreed to, but those reports also included Houthi denials. But today Al Mayadeen, a generally pro-Houthi Lebanese news outlet, is reporting optimism from the Houthi side that the deal is real and the war is winding down.

What’s startling here is the apparent role of China in brokering a rapprochement between Iran and Saudi that made this possible. The Saudis seem like they are fully capitulating to the (quite reasonable) Houthi demands, which include opening the major port to allow critical supplies into the country, allowing flights, and allowing the government to have access to its currency to pay its workers and stabilize the economy. Reasonable stuff.

With the Saudis no longer backing militants in the war, those rump factions won’t have much capacity left to fight, though there will still probably be some clashes before it’s all said and done. The way the war is ending also underscores just how illegitimate the “government” of Yemen has been the last several years. In reality, it’s a group of exiles living in hotels in Riyadh, fully propped up by and under the thumb of Saudi Arabia. For a while, Saudi Arabia was referring to it in official documents as “The Legitimate Government of Yemen,” though it did no actual governing, and had no legitimacy outside its hotel.

It’s now led by the “Presidential Leadership Council,” and look at how the news was delivered to the “legitimate government of Yemen,” according to Al Mayadeen: “The sources stated that Riyadh informed the Presidential Leadership Council of its decision to end the war and conclude the Yemeni file permanently.”

The war is over. So is your government. The file is closed. Check out is at 11 am. You’ve been informed.

Erik Sperling, executive director of Just Foreign Policy, which has been working for an end to the war in Yemen for years, told me that the Saudi move suggests the country is looking out for its own interests rather than continuing the war for the benefit of U.S. interests in the region. "The Saudi concessions — including a potential lifting of the blockade and exit from the war — demonstrate that their priority is to protect Saudi territory from attack and focus on economic development at home,” he said. “This diverges from the approach preferred by many Washington foreign policy elites who continued to hope that the Saudi war and blockade could force the Houthis to make concessions and cede more power to the US-backed Yemeni 'government.' While the Houthis are a deeply flawed movement, it is both immoral and ineffective to try to counter them by pushing tens of millions of Yemenis to the brink of starvation. The Saudis are smart to cut their losses, end their complicity in this human rights nightmare, and refocus their attention to their own economic development."

  • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    This "seals the deal" for me that a Chinese world-order would be more peaceful and stable than one ruled by the US. I don't even give a fuck about this or that "oh they're not really communist / socialist because bleblehbleh", I do not fucking care, they are a measurably better, real alternative to US hegemony.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      I think the important difference to highlight is the lack of a military industrial complex. Even people that see them both as capitalist can see that one promotes war while the other does not, and it comes down to the MIC.

      • iridaniotter [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Yup, China's defense spending is about 2% of their industrial output while America's is close to a quarter. This is still not enough for America, so they use dollar hegemony to fund their military as well. Meanwhile, China's whole MO has been global influence via trade and win-win cooperation. Haters will say they'll eventually press the imperialism button and become just like the US, but making conjectures on the future without any historical evidence is simply unscientific.

        • MaoistLandlord [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          China also sets modest and specific goals for themselves. They're not always met and they're not always good for everyone, but the goals are there for everybody to see. Compare that to the US where politicians will say vague shit like "we will create more jobs by 2030, less crime by 2025, and more healthcare by 2050" like what does that even mean. If they're satisfied with relatively small goals, then they wouldn't need to become like the US.

        • MaoistLandlord [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          There are private military manufacturers, but they're still staffed with CPC members in executive positions or jointly owned/operated with the state. There's probably less scrutiny over the weapons being exported vs. the ones being used by the chinese military

    • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      It would be an astounding achievement in being terrible if a Chinese world order was somehow worse than a US led one

      • supafuzz [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        KFC is arguably more Chinese than American now (7900ish stores vs. 3900ish stores https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_KFC_franchises)

        and there's no netflix but that's good actually

        • Judge_Juche [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Chinese KFC is also way better than the American version, like it is functionally two different companies.

          • Mardoniush [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            They even adopted the Australian chip seasoning which is 103% of the reason to get KFC

            • ProfessorAdonisCnut [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Wait the US KFC doesn't have that chip seasoning? This is just like how they have HFCS instead of actual sugar in your fizzy sugar water, and that stupid thing with having butyric acid in chocolate because of nostalgic WW2 vets.

              Why rule the world only to get worse versions of every food? Terminal British Empire brain...

          • Gucci_Minh [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            It was crazy getting soy milk and youtiao at Chinese KFC for breakfast lol. I mean it's nowhere near as good as the street vendors but when I saw it I had to try just once.

          • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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            2 years ago

            I heard that KFC is way better virtually everywhere than it is in the US because other countries have at least some food regulations while in the US they can just serve you rat poison, basically

          • theother2020 [comrade/them, she/her]
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            2 years ago

            It’s so freaking good with a quite different menu that includes some really yummy healthy (broth-based) soup. And I hate US KFC and pretty much all fast food here.

            I hear even the UK ones are way better, but I haven’t tried them.

    • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Helps that China's "no exporting revolution" non-interventionist stance goes both ways. They may not be supportive of a potential revolution but they won't try to actively crush it via military deployment or crippling sanctions like NATO absolutely would.

      Granted, I've seen fair criticisms by Maoists of their economic ties with (and shipment of weapons to) the Philippines which is actively fighting its communist insurgency, but to me, materially, that's just a drop in the bucket compared to how US materially supports and backs up the government.

      • CriticalResist8 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The weapons to the Philippines were finally investigated and it turns out it's all bogus lol. China only sold non-weapons material, and they made two gifts of about 7000 rifles total to the Philippines at a time where a major town was literally seized by an ISIS-connected group. These weapons most likely ended up in Duterte's war on drugs than against the NPA.

    • SaniFlush [any, any]
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      2 years ago

      It wouldn't be just a Chinese world order, going multipolar is their goal. They don't WANT to rule the entire planet, CPC doesn't give a flying fuck about controlling anything outside of China.

  • stinky [any]
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    2 years ago

    This news alone should make you welcome the Chinese century. They did what no Western power wanted to do and now millions of Yemeni will get to live and rebuild their society.

    I don’t even have words.

    • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      :10000-com:

      This was literally the first thing I said / predicted / hoped for upon news of the China-brokered Iran-SA resumption of diplomatic relations. The situation in Yemen has been hell on Earth, ignored by most people, and I've met some time f the refugees personally who honestly didn't have any hope of ever going back. This is just a first step for sure, but a huge and important one. And the lack of an active war (being fueled by Western proxies at that too) can open the door to treating this as the humanitarian crisis this really is.

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Wonder what explanation libs will settle on for why this is Bad, Actually

    • supafuzz [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      sad answer: they'll just ignore it, most of them didn't know there was a war on in Yemen in the first place

    • stinky [any]
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      2 years ago

      China has ended a war that killed hundreds of thousands of children but at what cost?

  • TheBroodian [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    God damn, this is the breath of fresh air that I needed. I'm really fucking happy to hear this good news.

    • Othello
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      26 days ago

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  • Kaputnik [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Wow, hopefully this comes to fruition. Ending one of the largest ongoing humanitarian disasters with the Houthi side coming out on top. I never thought it could happen at this point

    • MaoistLandlord [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Really, the one anyone should be weary of is the Saudis. If the US manages to entice them again, they'll become the lapdogs again. But perhaps they're smart and see the empire struggling and wants to chop up journalists without the help of americans

        • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          yeah the Saudis going full Multipolar BRICS Gang was not something I would have been able to guess would happen a year ago, but in hindsight it's so obvious

        • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Yes, at first I was surprised about the century loyal house of Saud going turncoat all of the sudden. However, it makes sense when you take into account this context. The Americans also failed to decisively end their proxy war in Yemen or help the Saudis enough to uphold their end of the implicit security deal (money for protection). The Houthis still kept striking Saudi vital infrastructure and the Saudis realized how vulnerable they are to sabotage, being in a desert and extracting resources to survive (desalination, oil, refining, etc).

          So your choices are: Stick with your weakening, increasingly desperate ally who appears to be using you as a front for a proxy war against Iran - and they will use you up the same way they are using up Ukraine. Or, you can swap to the emerging powers and growing economies of Russia, China, Iran, Asia, Africa, South America. The war with the Houthis goes away, the conflicts in Syria go away, Israel is now a problem however.

    • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Depend on the yank if they tolerate MBS antic. If not, I smell a coup or assassination incoming

      • MaoistLandlord [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        can't wait for the CIA to funnel millions of dollars into something vaguely progressive in SA and start accusing leftists of being fundamental monarchists for saying "actually, a pro IMF and World Bank feminist will not help women of SA thrive"

      • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Or just false flag ops and strategy of tension shit to keep things hot between Houthis and Saudis, or to split apart Iran and Saudis

    • stinky [any]
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      2 years ago

      I didn’t change the title.