• Bloobish [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    As I've always said John Brown is what happens when a rational and empathetic human being realizes the only way to save people from ultimate oppression via slavery is to kill the enslaver and free the enslaved by any means necessary. It's like a Gordian knot solution and yet you got these mfers going "well for his time he was crazy" no he was prolly one of the most rational white individual ever for his time on what must be done.

    • Posadas [he/him, they/them]
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      1 year ago

      How I Defeated Fascism With the Power of Love

      Chapter 1: The Power of Love

      The first step in my journey was realizing that it is impossible to defeat fascism with the power of love.

      Chapter 2: The Power of Incredible Violence

    • KnockYourSocksOff [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Libertarians worship the Killdozer because “sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things.” In reality he was a petite bougie fucker was extremely greedy and narcissistic and went on a rampage because the state wanted to enforce a basic zoning law that they already relaxed severely just for him.

      John Brown is the true example of what happens when a reasonable man does unreasonable things. And the only unreasonable things he did was get black people killed for his damned aspirations. But the slave owners and sympathizers? They deserved it. It was completely reasonable.

      • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Yeah learning about the Killdozer guy made me happy he decided to check himself out of existence instead of being taken alive by the hogs. Mfer is an example of what average "property rights" brainpilled Americans think is a correct response to being told "no you have to have proper sewage lines you fucker".

        Also honestly my main gripe with John Brown was him thinking that Harper's Ferry was going to actually work instead of just going guerrilla mode via continual fast raids and plantation liberations.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        1 year ago

        Libertarians worship the Killdozer because “sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things.”

        The killdozer itself was this wild spectacle. It symbolized - for at least a short while - the power of a singular motivated individual with intelligence enough to cobble this thing together and wealth enough to afford access to the tools he needed.

        It embodied the libertarian mindset, in so far as it was just this SuperHero(/Villain) defeating wave after wave of "normals".

        John Brown, by contrast, wasn't this singular ubermensch. He didn't plow through Harper's Ferry single handed. He didn't valiantly charge the line of state troopers and scatter them with impunity. He was an organizer, and his goals were so much more far reaching than a one day temper tantrum. When he martyred himself, it wasn't for the amusement of YouTube dorks. It was as the first shot in a massive configuration.

        That's why libertarians can't connect with Brown.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      1 year ago

      He was

      1. incredibly rational in his understanding of the state of the world

      2. immune to the deep seated depression of an individual who felt incapable of change

      3. charismatic enough to engage people and convince them to follow his lead

  • barrbaric [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    His lawyers tried to plead insanity but he refused and was deeply offended. Seems pretty settled to me.

  • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Let me guess, they think that realizing the necessity of violence and seeking that violence proactively constitutes insanity?

  • chauncey [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Does anyone know the name of the John Brown book they reference on Trillbillies here and there?

  • D61 [any]
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    1 year ago

    The Madness Incredibly Righteous Anger of John Brown

  • MF_COOM [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    This is why I was never interested in that 2020 show with Ethan Hawke playing John Brown - the trailers made him look like a complete maniac like mf y'all are telling on yourselves if you think killing slavers is insane

    • pastalicious [he/him, undecided]
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      1 year ago

      I came away feeling like his depiction was mostly good in that show but maybe that’s because I already liked him. Maybe a lib watches it and has the exact opposite take away.

  • D3FNC [any]
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    1 year ago

    John Brown did nothing wrong