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  • S4ck [none/use name]
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    1 年前

    Why are the French proletariat so much cooler than the rest of the "West"

    • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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      1 年前

      They have a lot of experience. They got 4 revolutions on their resume, plus May '68

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      1 年前

      They are organised.

      Also their national anthem isn't about how nice france is like most national anthems, it's about doing revolution. The national identity of the frenchman is revolution.

      Arise, children of the Fatherland
      Our day of glory has arrived
      Against us the bloody flag of tyranny
      is raised; the bloody flag is raised.
      Do you hear, in the countryside
      The roar of those ferocious soldiers?
      They’re coming right into your arms
      To cut the throats of your sons, your comrades!
      
      To arms, citizens!
      Form your battalions
      Let’s march, let’s march
      That their impure blood
      Should water our fields.
      
      • huf [he/him]
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        1 年前

        for some reason this song, the internationale and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Br%C3%BCder,_zur_Sonne,_zur_Freiheit (hungarian version) have morphed into one vague revolutionary song in my brain.

        dunno why, it happened when i was a child i think, when i only had vague ideas about any of this.

        • WashedAnus [he/him]
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          1 年前

          The Internationale was originally to the tune of Le Marseillaise, but later got its own music.

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          1 年前

          It is really odd for a national anthem. It's not the best thing to encourage revolution as part of your national character if you don't want revolution to occur. A serious oversight by the ruling class that can't be corrected.

          • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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            1 年前

            Well the people who set up new orders are usually on board with a society that continues to change dramatically and don't see themselves as the end point. If you were building a new revolutionary government, one of the best checks against stagnation and backsliding is establishing an expectation that the people will need to do another revolution at some point down the line. Any good student of revolutionary history will see that (with a few exceptions) only the revolution itself achieves progressive gains.

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      1 年前

      The Soviet military administration will really put the wall in Wall Street.

    • sempersigh [he/him]
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      1 年前

      France is definitely more based than other western countries when it comes to protests but I still think they run into the same problem as most movements in the west of the dog catching a car thing.

      Like with the George Floyd movement you get everyone out and participating, you occupy a bunch of shit and then like seemingly every movement before it you run into the “well… now what?” Phase where everyone just pontificates about the situation. Everyone blinks and before you know it a year later you’re back at work just trying to get through the day like before.

      I really hope they prove me wrong.

      • Acute_Engles [he/him, any]
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        1 年前

        Everyone blinks and before you know it a year later you’re back at work just trying to get through the day like before

        :yea: It really hurts how much this is true.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        1 年前

        Just rewatched Adam Curtis's Hypernormalization the other day and yeah, it's a recurring issue.

        All the revolutionaries are dead and we are running around trying to manage ourself into power. Without a dedicated political goal there can be no revolution.

        That's not to say the revolution is dead, only in stasis until we can figure out how to rebuild political consciousness beyond immediate protest and management of protest

        • bigboopballs [he/him]
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          1 年前

          That’s not to say the revolution is dead, only in stasis until we can figure out how to rebuild political consciousness beyond immediate protest and management of protest

          yeah, the fascists have definitely got this

          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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            1 年前

            The fascists don't have it either, they can't even organize protests half the time. What we're gonna get is a heightening of the technocratic capitalist control system. They're gonna use Bayesian systems to try and grind us all down even more. Nash and Bool have had their time in the sun, we've been molded by fear and doubt. Now it's time for uncertainty.

            • bigboopballs [he/him]
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              1 年前

              The fascists don’t have it either, they can’t even organize protests half the time.

              I meant the Capitalist fascists who decide what everyone thinks, not the local freikorps bums.

      • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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        1 年前

        I think it's wrong to write the George Floyd protests off like that, saying that everyone just kinda "went back to work". Rome wasn't built in a day and it didn't fall in a day either.

        The people lashed out and while the system still stands, there are now more cracks in its foundation than before. Many people are disillusioned with the way things are and while there might be several more events of the public being enraged without immediate consequences, eventually there will be a straw to break the camel's back.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        1 年前

        Like with the George Floyd movement you get everyone out and participating, you occupy a bunch of shit and then like seemingly every movement before it you run into the “well… now what?” Phase where everyone just pontificates about the situation. Everyone blinks and before you know it a year later you’re back at work just trying to get through the day like before.

        "There was madness in any direction, at any hour. If not across the Bay, then up the Golden Gate or down 101 to Los Altos or La Honda. . . . You could strike sparks anywhere. There was a fantastic universal sense that whatever we were doing was right, that we were winning. . . .

        And that, I think, was the handle—that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of Old and Evil. Not in any mean or military sense; we didn’t need that. Our energy would simply prevail. There was no point in fighting—on our side or theirs. We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave. . . .

        So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark—that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.” :hst-pissed:

  • NotErisma
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    10 个月前

    deleted by creator

  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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    1 年前

    Shoulda cracked some of those glass walls to run up the damage bill beyond just cleaning expenses

  • SexMachineStalin [comrade/them]
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    1 年前

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  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    1 年前

    This kind of shit would only happen in Burgerland if Wendy's discontinued the Baconator or something. :doomer:

  • culpritus [any]
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    1 年前

    :geordi-no: J6 rioters wondering and shitting in the Capitol

    :geordi-yes: French rioters starting fires in the Stock Exchange