Listen, I Like Sam, Emma, Matt and all the rest. They are my daily listen, even if I sometimes disagree.

And the subreddit is mostly okay, too. A bit too liberal for me to visit that often but not bad.

And then I saw this thread. Over 1k upvotes, 600+ comments.

And absolute dogshit analysis. Just an orgy of the most CNN-tier vomit spewed over all of our screens.

Here’s the link for all to see.

  • RION [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    The stupidity of the bit you highlighted is unironically stunlocking me :agony-mescaline:

    Russia invades a neighboring country when they threaten to join NATO, after decades of trying to prevent this through various broken promises and failed agreements. Then, assuming they win, "nearly every geopolitical figure" thinks they'll just go ahead and make war with NATO anyway??????? If they're looking to go to war with NATO why go to war to stop Ukraine from joining?????

    • stinky [any]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      And Russia does it all just to apparently lose in the NATO v Russia WWIII.

      NATO will wipe out all of Russia's ground troops

      You are a fundamentally unserious person who does not understand how the world works. Go play with your boo-boo toy.

    • Fuckass
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      10 months ago

      deleted by creator

    • wild_dog [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      this is why I quit DSA. "socialists" got mad that I went to an antiwar protest as an elected member of the steering committee and i was like "nope, if you can't do the bare minimum and be anti-imperialist then this org embarrasses me."

      and yeah i know it's DSA so i should have expected that but my local chapter was good once.

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      1 year ago

      americans go through most of our lives totally unaware of history, geography, and politics. once we learn anything, we get like 20 to 30 years before our heads explode.

      • SaniFlush [any, any]
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        1 year ago

        As a very useless and stupid person I agree with your self-defeating sentiment.

    • BlueMagaChud [any]
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      1 year ago

      there may be exceptions, but the third-worldists definitely have a point

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    geopolitical figurehead

    lol do they not know what figurehead means

    • stinky [any]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      LMAO I DIDNT EVEN CATCH THAT.

    • barrbaric [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      King Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden is very worried about Russia invading Poland.

      • emizeko [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        figurehead has nominal power but because they are acting as the face of others they aren't the decision makers

        a nominal leader or head without real power

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Mickey Mouse is the geopolitical figurehead of the Disney corporation. You better not fuck with him, hahah. :scared:

    • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      we all thought a protracted invasion of ukraine was a bad idea for various reasons that were mostly proven right and he did it anyway so I'm not sure we can put him on behaving in accordance with the obvious analysis.

        • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          No but you see, the fact that the russians made this one bad decision actually means that Putin is literally Adolf Voldemort Stalin and is definitely planning on ending the world with nuclear hellfire because he's struggling with erectile dysfunction and restless leg syndrome.

            • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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              1 year ago

              a second world country trying to be roped into the first? that was literally the point of the maidan color revolution and what stoked separatism in the breakaway republics

              anyway, the obvious analysis is blah blah article 5 but I don't think the anglos actually care about anything east of germany and how sure can we really be that some boomer making bad strategic level military decisions thinks he has a way to call that bluff and get away with it?

                • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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                  1 year ago

                  i think it's reasonable to have russia inherit the second world designation in this context, i'd certainly never call ukraine third world unless we're calling everybody outside of nato 3rd world by default.

                    • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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                      1 year ago

                      (though perhaps only as short-hand for “poor”

                      that's probably what's going on unless there's some secret thirdworldism faction that none of us have heard of, especially if your friends are under 40.

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      You see, they're the enemy faction in an rts game, and no matter what their hostility will always be set to 100

  • Antoine_St_Hexubeary [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Okay, I'll bite. What is the strategic value of Russia attacking Poland when Kazakhstan is right there? It has more natural resource wealth than Poland does, it's not a NATO member (but has made just enough pro-Western gestures that Putin might be privately annoyed with it), and it's already full of ethnic Russians.

  • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    * guy seeing a stalemate in Ukraine for over a year * in my expert opinion theg'll be speaking Russian in London by June.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Putin is literally going to lose upwards of 500k soldiers, maybe even more, to a country based purely on a proxy war. People legitimately do not think that he's invading more and more European countries just to stop at Poland?

      That's an argument against Russia invading more of Europe. These people are so fucking daft.

    • BlueParenti [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I'm perpetually confused. Is the Russian army a paper tiger made up of useless weapons that struggles to take a small nation, or is it a global threat that will roll over Finland and Poland and Latvia and Estonia and-

      • Quizzes [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        It's whatever the power elite in the US need it to be.

        Yes, the libs will flip back and forth between the two stances like they did in Hate Week in "1984".

    • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Like someone else said they literally don't know what figurehead means so this is actually closer to the truth than usual lol.

  • judgeholden
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    9 months ago

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    • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      At this point that's true for pretty much every single left leaning sub that isn't explicitely "tankie" and bans these clowns on sight.

      The banning of r/cth and its consequences etc

  • darkcalling [comrade/them,she/her]
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    1 year ago

    Baby-brains who can only see anything ever though the lens of WW2 and Hitler. (Probably because that thinking is pounded into your head in the imperial core because it was the one war the west has done in ever where they were accidentally on the right side and not just brutalizing, occupying, and installing dictators against the popular will.)

    They see Putin as being aggressive for no reason, as being expansionistic because muh recreating Soviet Union or muh Hitler complex or whatever. This all stems from the rotten thinking, the ignorant, propagandized, false understanding of why this war started and spirals out of control from there.

  • KingPush [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    The Majority Report is ok, but some of its audience are some of the most sophomoric people on the planet.

    • stinky [any]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      Yeah, some of their audience is really y i k e s.

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I wish Sam was further left, but I feel that way about basically all of the left-yet-still-taken-seriously-news-guys, like Wolff and so on.

  • Beaver [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    This kind of reminds me of tough-on-crime rhetoric.

    "We have to be firm in our use of force, or else soon our cities will be overrun by violent criminals."

    • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      You'll notice an interesting parallel with how people think domestic issues should be handled and how that shapes their foreign policy whether they're aware of it or not.

    • stinky [any]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      There is definitely the element of having violence and the threat of violence be the only solution (and often the only problem).

  • disgruntled_worker [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    i deleted my Reddit account today after getting permad for the umpteenth time for telling a nazi to play in traffic, thank god threads like this reaffirm to me that i made the right decision.

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    1 year ago

    Yeah at the end of the day, they are libs. Simple as that. They also think you can vote the fash away.

    Also love how this post notes that NATO is the aggressor here that is threatening the world with WW3... But also suggests giving them more weapons?!

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I mean, the subreddit thinks you can vote the fash away. The people on the show don't think that.

        • SerLava [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          They support voting because it's a nearly effortless way to slightly materially improve people's lives, not because it'll just solve our problems. Seder is certainly the farthest right on that show but he's definitely not a :vote: liberal

  • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    the Majority Report was a bit much even when they had a couple genuine left voices on it, but unless something's changed it's just radlibs worrying over electoralism

    • wild_dog [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      it depends on what they're talking about. They're like the only liberal show that makes a point to talk about transphobia (Emma especially takes a hardline fuck that noise stance) but you can tell Sam doesn't care about foreign policy at all.

  • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    If Putin annexes Ukraine he will be able to justify a war goal for 45 political power against Poland. The military and civilians factories and core states in Ukraine will help him in his war against Nato