Image is of Russian mercenary Frodonov Bagginsky, standing in the ruins of Bakhmut after the battle concluded.


After nearly a year of intense fighting for the town of Bakhmut, Russian forces have finally reached full control.

While tens of thousands of lives have ended in the area in and around Bakhmut, perhaps almost as interesting as the battle itself has been the war of narratives over it. The state propagandists in the West have spent a lot of effort muddying the waters about the battle for the city, to the extent that the two sides now live in effectively separate realities.

If you are pro-Ukraine, the reality you observe is that this was an excellent maneuver by the Ukrainians - as the Russians send in their troops in human wave attacks armed only with shovels, you have achieved a 1:7 casualty ratio in your favor. You have fundamentally weakened the Russian army because, for some inscrutable reason, they have decided to attack one of the strongest parts of your front line - this reveals the inherent stupidity of the Ruskies. Let them have the city for all you care - it has zero importance and you will soon recapture it. You are, in fact, one step closer to winning the war - far from losing it.

If you are pro-Russian, the reality you observe is that this was an excellent maneuver by the Russians. By utilizing your massive artillery advantage over the enemy side, sometimes achieving over ten times the number of shells fired on any given day, you can easily attrit enemy forces and you have done so, achieving a 1:7 casualty ratio in your favor. As Bakhmut is a central city in the fortification line, Ukraine has no choice but to defend it with all their strength, which allowed you to create a cauldron which has been the death of tens of thousands of troops, at the expense of only mercenaries. The logistical links that capturing the city has both created for you and severed for the enemy will make future campaigns easier, and you are now capable of advancing into territory that hasn't spent the last eight years being fortified by all NATO has to offer. You are, in fact, one step closer to winning the war - far from losing it.

While I would love to be a very smart enlightened centrist and go "Well, both sides have a point here..." all evidence I can discern points to the Russian position and away from the Ukrainian one. When Zelensky went to the US and spoke before Congress earlier this year, he said:

To ensure Bakhmut is not just a stronghold that holds back the Russian Army, but for the Russian Army to completely pull out, more cannons and shells are needed. If so, just like the Battle of Saratoga, the fight for Bakhmut will change the trajectory of our war for independence and for freedom.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

Here is the archive of important pieces of analysis from throughout the war that we've collected.

This week's first update is here in the comments.

This week's second update is here in the comments.

This week's third update is here in the comments.

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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

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Resources For Understanding The War Beyond The Bulletins


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. I recommend their map more than the channel at this point, as an increasing subscriber count has greatly diminished their quality.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have decent analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: neo-conservative sources but their reporting of the war (so far) seems to line up with reality better than most liberal sources. Beware of chuddery.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent journalist reporting in the warzone.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist (but still quite reactionary in terms of gender and sexuality and race, so beware). If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ Another big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia's army.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


    • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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      edit-2
      1 year ago

      This is bad theory.

      Right-wingers aren't going to give up their guns, and the government isn't ever going to make them give up their guns. The only option available is to stay armed, stay organized and operate in a more low-key way than the BPP. Arming yourself individually is pointless, I agree, but your enemies are not going to be disarmed. If the state wanted to, they would have done so by now, especially since Jan 6th.

    • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Taking their guns/making it harder for them to use them would make it easier for leftists to do shit, not harder.

      Whether this is correct or not, what does the left have to do with it? We're not in power so we can't remove guns from the populace, and the people in power aren't going to remove guns from the populace. As long as there are guns in the hands of right wingers and cops, I think a case can be made that leftists who are willing or comfortable with guns should have them and train others with them.

    • WearYourKilt [comrade/them]
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      edit-2
      1 year ago

      The whole Marx quote about not surrendering guns has become an idealistic meme.

      The US Army couldn't even occupy Iraq or Afghanistan without getting chased out by men wearing sandals, brandishing ak47s whilst the US army did some of the most horrendous bombings and indiscriminate civilian killings

      An actual nazi uprising and the kind of mass murder seen in Nazi Germany, Indonesia 1965 etc could never happen.

      Indonesian Communist Party was the largest Communist Party in the world (outside of China) in 1965. The wholesale mass murder and genocide of practically every communist, socialist and trade unionist in 1965 could never happen in USA due to the access of weapons.

      And any whining about "the Army has way more sophisticated weapons" falls flat on it's face with 20th century insurgencies and wars of a technologically advanced imperialism versus proletarians waging class war (Russia 1918-1924, Korea 1950-53, China til 1949, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Houthis in Yemen, Syria etc)

      but the next school shooting is.

      From my cold dead hands, Democrat.

        • WearYourKilt [comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          If you're worried about school shootings you should join a communist party to overturn a pathologically psychopathic mode of production that produces this phenomena of mass shooting seen in hyper individualist - in such a society everyone be armed to maintain the people's army anyway

          But (non communist) leftists don't, they whine about gun control, demand guns be taken and vote for the imperialist Democrat party by insisting it's a "necessary compromise"

      • RonJonGuaido [none/use name]
        ·
        1 year ago

        If you real leftists could use all your guns and wage proletarian class war before my kid gets gunned down on his way back from PE, I'd really appreciate it.

        • WearYourKilt [comrade/them]
          ·
          1 year ago

          but unless you’re in the middle of a protracted peoples war, you sound like you’re larping.

          Owning guns is larping. You should only buy them when the actual Proletarian civil war starts.

          To do so prior is a larp.

          Also the us army occupied both Iraq and Afghanistan? They did it, they murdered thousands and could’ve continued to do so for years to come.

          It took US 8$ trillion, many of their own soldiers dead, complete ruination of US empire to replace the Taliban with the Taliban

          If a civil war started in US the reactionaries would not be shooting faceless, dehumanised arabs but their own family and countrymen. Most of the army would go over to the Proletariat in such a situation

          Because Marx said revolution was right around the corner?

          It is. Capitalism started in 1648 in England as the utmost you could give generosity to the porkies and by 1871 Proletarians were already waging class war against their system and by 1945 a 1/5 of the globe was a Proletarian Dictatorship. Add to this the US dollar is going down the shitter and will shortly be worth nothing with Xi Jinping stating : "“Right now there are changes – the likes of which we haven’t seen for 100 years – and we are the ones driving these changes together,”

          If you truly believe in “under no pretext” then go start a left wing militia and hunt fascists - That is what the arms are for.

          Left adventurism.

          I hope you remain ideologically consistent and take this same stance the next time theres a school shooting.

          I will state this after the 10,000th school shooting

          If not wanting kids murdered makes me a democrat, then call me Joe Biden.

          I knew it lol. You one of the guys that shilled for the social-fascists AOC and Bomber Bernie ?

          Stop larping and either support gun control and initiate a protracted peoples war, this is just cringe

          Never will I stop larping, never will I support gun control

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      Every time the topic of guns come up, I'll just say these two simple truths:

      1. The pigs will not disarm themselves.

      2. The pigs will not disarm their fascist drinking buddies either.

    • SoyViking [he/him]
      ·
      1 year ago

      I generally agree with your statement. Easy access to guns is causing actual harm to people here and now and is politically empowering chuds, not leftists.

      Also, although Chompsky is problematic he is not wrong about violence being the government's home turf. They're way better at it than any small leftist militia is ever going to be. You and your 20 revolutionary friends starting an armed uprising against the state would just be a very quick and effective way to get yourself killed, alienating most normal workers in the process. Material conditions in the imperial core are not ripe for a Cuban-style revolution in which a few handful of guerillas spark a popular uprising that ends the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.

      With all that being said material conditions can change. Successful armed revolutionary uprisings has in fact happened throughout history. The imperial core is circling the drain, with growing inequality, a decaying ideological superstructure and an abandonment of the social contract that promised workers relative comfort in return for their complacency. As material conditions change, so can the possibility of a successful armed uprising. We're nowhere near that though and the way to get closer is not to stockpile guns but to build robust organisations promoting class consciousness and solidarity.

      You should also be aware that guns can be pointed at other actors than the state. A handful of armed leftists can't do shit about the bourgeois state but they can work wonders to deter non-state fascist groups from attacking leftist rallies, queer events etc.

    • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
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      1 year ago

      The state has a near monopoly on weapons and violence. Entrenching that to a total monopoly gives them an even bigger edge. When material conditions reach the breaking point its quite possible Right wing Chuds and Communist will unite against the Liberal Oligarchs similar to how the KMT and CPC worked together to overthrow the Qing dynasty.

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        the KMT and CPC worked together to overthrow the Qing dynasty.

        The CPC didn't even exist when the Qing dynasty got overthrown. The founders of the CPC were participants of the May 4th movement, which happened 8 years after the Qing dynasty was overthrown.

        The KMT didn't officially exist before the Qing dynasty was overthrown either. What you had was the Tongmenghui, which later became the KMT, except Sun Yat-sen and key players of that resistance group were exiled in Japan when the Qing dynasty was overthrown.

        Like, this is terrible history. Why does this comment have 16 upvotes lol

        • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
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          edit-2
          1 year ago

          The people who overthrew the Qing Dynasty eventually became the KMT and CPC. Communists and nationalists fought together because of material conditions and then split over ideology.

          • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
            ·
            1 year ago

            That's not true either since one of the principal architects of the Xinhai Revolution was an opportunist Qing general named Yuan Shikai who would crown himself Emperor after overthrowing the Qing. If you're talking about the Wuchang Uprising, it was done by factions of the New Army, an army corp formed under the Qing who were loyal to Yuan. Like, a big part of how the Qing got overthrown was Yuan wanting to do the typical thing of overthrowing the current dynasty and establishing his own imperial dynasty. The KMT like to hype up their involvement in the Xinhai Revolution through the Tongmenghui, but the entire early history of the ROC was completely steered by Yuan for the simple reason that Yuan had an army while Sun didn't.

            The New Army would eventually become the Beiyang Army, and it was this Beiyang Army, controlled by the Beiyang Clique, that the KMT and CPC formed a united front against. The Beiyang Clique were ousted from power when the KMT and CPC embarked on the Northern Expedition.

            It's more accurate to say the KMT and CPC overthrew the people who overthrew the Qing.

      • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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        edit-2
        1 year ago

        When material conditions reach the breaking point its quite possible Right wing Chuds and Communist will unite against the Liberal Oligarchs

        Not only is this absolutely fanfic of the highest order, I wouldn't want it to happen. I dont want to fight alongside CHUDs who want me to be dead lmao. No thanks.

        ETA: Admitteldy I missed the "oligarchs" in this sentence but I still feel weird about this. LIke i know the revolution will be a class war but damn wording it that way feels gross.

        • Commiejones [comrade/them, he/him]
          ·
          1 year ago

          It is more likely that fascism will ride electoralism to power. but if it doesn't....

          Class contradictions would draw the line in a violent revolution putting many right wing people on the same side as the left. Our goals should be not to stop this cooperation but to know when the time is right to turn on them before they turn on us.

          This is what we should learn from the USSR/KMT/CPC relationship before the Chinese civil war. Use the Chuds and try to change their ideology during the struggle, then betray/dispose of the nationalists and fascists as soon as we have the upper hand against the capitalists.

    • AHopeOnceMore [he/him]B
      ·
      1 year ago

      It's definitely true that most citations of the Marx quote are anachronistic, but there are still valid left arguments for us arming ourselves, and especially in an organized way. We should be creating those militias for self-defense. And marginalized people need protection and they won't be getting it from the state.