Whenever I see that I've received a reply here I get a little dopamine hit and I think "oh man, time to see what my fellow chapos think of what I've said!". This is even true when I've been arguing for veganism. Sure, there may be some disagreement, but it probably won't be super, dishearteningly nasty.

By contrast, every single time I see that orange envelope on reddit I tend to feel a little pang of anxiety and my first thought is always "oh fuck, what did I comment on again? Am I about to get some literal hate speech thrown my way?"

So yeah, thanks friends! Someday I may even ditch reddit for good because of you, and my life would be better for it.

  • Ericthescruffy [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Real talk:

    I love you comrades. Truly. I'm more hesitant to post here because im worried I'll be found out as a lib. I'm still on my journey and decolonizing my brain and I just hope you all understand and tolerate me.

    • Good_Username [they/them,e/em/eir]
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      4 years ago

      Good call! I'll probably do the same someday, because it is garbage, but, like I said somewhere else, not a lot of people here play FTL, you know?

        • Good_Username [they/them,e/em/eir]
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          4 years ago

          Oh man, there may well be! (There may not be, and that's fine.) But look up Mike Hopley on youtube. He has a fucking 97% win rate on hard and uploads youtube videos about micromanagement tricks he finds. It's incredible.

  • lizbo [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Couldn't agree more, especially with the point on vegan discussion. Can't wait for /c/vegan to be created. Also can't wait for this place to generate enough content to completely pull me away from reddit. I'm already finding myself on there less and less everyday.

      • lizbo [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        I know right! It amazes me how even casually mentioning veganism practically anywhere on reddit gets you downvoted and flamed while I can have quality discussion about veganism even with non-vegans on here. The difference in attitude is staggering.

  • scramplunge [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    I would totally ditch Reddit. But those hyper focused communities with years of information are hard to find on the internet. So if I’m searching for anything, Reddit is usually good starting point.

    But yeah I love it here.

    • Good_Username [they/them,e/em/eir]
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      4 years ago

      Like right?!?! I get a lot of transphobia myself, but yeah, same situation. Fucking reddit. Fuck that racist, transphobic place.

  • Wmill [he/him,use name]
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    4 years ago

    Lurked on reddit for years but after the subreddit being banned I only ever look at it for maybe some soft core porn and blackwolffeed. I still like the weird stories and relationship drama but I just go to youtube and have a robot read the best stories for me. My only regret with reddit is that I got my nephew into it. While he's living with me I'll see about introducing this site to him. Been deprogramming him slowly by explaining things in a more class based analysis kind of way. I know what you mean about the reply, feels good.

      • Wmill [he/him,use name]
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        4 years ago

        Maybe I'm using it wrong but I thought hard core was penetration, I just like teasing stuff if that makes sense. But I think this is sarcasm right? I don't know but maybe the emoji means sarcasm.

      • Wmill [he/him,use name]
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        4 years ago

        Thanks seems to be going well so far. He seems to respect me so I need to use my influence for good.

    • Good_Username [they/them,e/em/eir]
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      4 years ago

      Oh shit, I never responded to you, and I think I responded to everyone else. Sorry friend. I just, I don't know what "pk fire" means, and that's why we are where we are. But I appreciate you!

      • HntrKllr [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        It's an attack move of a video game character called Ness

        • Good_Username [they/them,e/em/eir]
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          4 years ago

          Oh I gotcha! I never played much super smash bros. (Also, I'm sure Ness was in something else I've never played. Being a gamer who didn't grow up as a gamer kind of sucks.)

    • Good_Username [they/them,e/em/eir]
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      4 years ago

      Yo, you knew I'd say you should be a vegan. Come on, it's easier than you'd think and the food is damn tasty and cheap and you don't have to have a pang of conscience every time you eat a bit of dead animal. Let me know if you need help! You got this!

      • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        im not opposed to being vegan in theory, but then id have to give up honey and im like nah. avoiding meat consumption is praxis though

        • Good_Username [they/them,e/em/eir]
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          4 years ago

          Alright, the occasional vegan will yell at me for this (and they're welcome to, I'm wrong about this) but do everything except honey. Eggs and dairy are the real devil. Honey will come (or maybe it won't, and, eh, fuck it kind of).

          • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            honestly, i view beekeeping as one of the best things people can do to try and stave off the inevitable collapse of our entire ecosystem, so... imma just never agree to getting rid of honey. sorry not sorry

            • Good_Username [they/them,e/em/eir]
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              4 years ago

              On the one hand, I see that, on the other, well, honeybees are an invasive species in many places. If you want to raise pollinators, I'm super down, but honeybees aren't always it.

              • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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                4 years ago

                are they an invasive species? in north america, yes. does the entire system rely on bees existing? also yes. the issue as i see it is that native species are fucked regardless of nonnative honey bees out competing them, so having some kind of pollination thats easy to convince people to participate in is the best way to go to avoid system collapse. would i say no to someone wanting to go above and beyond that? no.

                • Good_Username [they/them,e/em/eir]
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                  4 years ago

                  And here we're getting into the absolute weeds of what is the best thing to do? And, well, I'm not a scientist, I don't know. Once I have a place of my own where I'm going to be for the long term I'm going to do my research and see what pollinators are correct and how I can help them exist and do their best for the surrounding ecosystem. But until then, all I can do is be a little skeptical about honeybees and that's what I'm going to do, because honeybees aren't always the answer.

                  But yeah, I don't know, native species are pretty fucked, and honestly, so is everything else. I learned today that yeasts are evolving to live at higher temperatures and that means that soon they're going to be able to survive at human body temperatures. And that means that soon humans will be dying because they became a yeast colony. What a world, we're all fucked.

                  • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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                    4 years ago

                    yep pretty much. agreed on all counts. if someone told me the sky was literally falling because, fuck i dont know, green house gasses are now causing boil off of the upper atmosphere or something... i would not even be surprised, cause hell world gonna hell world.

              • TheOldRazzleDazzle [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                What are non invasive pollinators you can raise en masse? Monarch butterflies? Plus, and I know, I know, but no honey out of the deal.

                • Good_Username [they/them,e/em/eir]
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                  4 years ago

                  Ah shit, you want me to do actual research!?! Also, maybe more importantly, that will depend on where you are.

                  And sure, I get it, the lack of honey is less than ideal, but that's what sugar is for, you know?

                  • TheOldRazzleDazzle [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    Plus you know that's on top of all the bad karma from its historical connection to indentured slavery in the Caribbean and Pacific.

                  • TheOldRazzleDazzle [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    Wait, are you being serious? Because if so I've got bad news for you friendo...

                    https://www.thoughtco.com/effect-of-sugar-on-the-environment-1204100

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                        4 years ago

                        ive heard a few good things about this weird goop that comes out of insect butts. i think theyre calling it hunni? idk

                        • Good_Username [they/them,e/em/eir]
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                          4 years ago

                          Oh, so now the fact that honeybees are an invasive species doesn't matter? I thought you cared about doing the right thing.

                          • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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                            4 years ago

                            i think you missed the part where i said them being invasive was secondary to the other issues at hand, like yknow, the inability for anything to be pollinated af all? also i was mostly just having a faff about the "whats a good sweetener" thing because theres no good answer, but okay my bad

                            • Good_Username [they/them,e/em/eir]
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                              4 years ago

                              Is whether a species is invasive really secondary? It seems kind of important to me. But if someone with scientific knowledge wants to tell me why invasive species aren't a huge issue, actually, I'm willing to listen.

                              And is there really no good answer for a reasonable sweetener? That sucks. Does anyone have a good sweetener? I'm super willing to stop buying sugar if there's a good alternative.

                              • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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                                4 years ago

                                it absolutely is important. its just that there are other more important things. biodiversity is more than just "which kind of bee" and if an invasive honey bee keeps plants alive that otherwise would die off due to lack of pollination, well its not perfect but itll do.

                                as to sweeteners.. thats really just a "no ethical consumption under capitalism" thing. there are definitely "better" sources, but yeah, honestly a local apiary is probably one of the least harmful options.

                                • Good_Username [they/them,e/em/eir]
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                                  4 years ago

                                  You know, fair enough, I'm willing to buy that about the bees.

                                  I worry about your second paragraph though, because I've seen a lot of people say "backyard eggs are fine, actually", and they just aren't. So I'm willing to believe that bees are a reasonable source of sweetener, but I need actual evidence, because my base assumption is "don't use animals against their will", and bees count. I'm willing to go against that and use honey, even if it's bad for the bees, but I need solid evidence that bees are significantly better for the environment than anything else.

                                  • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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                                    4 years ago

                                    well let me just own up real fast to my own bias here that i think human enslavement is inherently worse than the enslavement of a bee hive, because that bias is 100% why i can say a local apiary is the least harmful option. beyond that im not really going to try and answer the moral quandry of this for you. if you think taking honey from bees is MORE morally reprehensible than other supply chains, uh well.. i guess look into what happens on sugar plantations? cause it aint good.

                                    • Good_Username [they/them,e/em/eir]
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                                      4 years ago

                                      Alright friendo, I'll be honest here, I don't really care if you eat honey or not. You do you. I'd still like to find an ethical sweetener, but if there isn't one, well, my clothes all get made by slaves in other parts of the world. Capitalism sucks, and being vegan is an easy way for me to feel a little less bad about my impact on the world.

                                      • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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                                        4 years ago

                                        alright pal, ill be honest here, i dont really care about having your approval or permission. you asked questions so i replied. and yeah, i get it, thats why i pointed out the whole ethical consumption thing being a pipe dream in the first place. best of luck looking for an ethical sweetner

        • eiknat [she/her,ey/em]
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          4 years ago

          cut out everything you're willing to do. i started by just cutting out beef and eating a lot more meat free dishes. eventually i started removing more things. something is better than nothing

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          4 years ago

          Nah, come join us on the vegan side. You won't even miss honey after a little while.

          Also, vegans are cooler, sexier and hornier than omnis

          • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            if you say so. pretty sure all the vegans round these parts would disagree with you though, cause stealing all that delicious liquid gold from bees is doing an animal exploitation. let alone eating that poor chickens completely unfertilized ovum. practically an unborn baby

              • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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                4 years ago

                🤷 im just sayin, by your definition im already vegan, and by theirs im definitely not. soo.. imma just be over here eating an apple like an asshole

  • Vayeate [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    delete your reddit account. it stops me from the knee jerk reflex to respond to idiots.

    • Good_Username [they/them,e/em/eir]
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      4 years ago

      That's... a good call. Being and to read and not respond would honestly probably be a really great thing, all in all.

      • Vayeate [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        it's screaming into the void anyway. you're wasting your time trying to convince 14 year olds in canada

  • Faentoller [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    This is the only place on the internet (and in real life for that matter) that I feel comfortable and confident addressing others as "comrade".

  • QuillQuote [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Aww fuck yes, exactly that comrade!

    Ditch the reddit, or at least the account so you can spare yourself the replies :angery: