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    • lib_0000429384 [any]
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      4 years ago

      I myself am fucking suicidal and mentally ill and idk if I should have one.

      This is super important and I’m glad how often I hear comrades remind each other of this.

      I lost a friend to suicide by gun in highschool. The thing is, I know if I had a time machine the dude wouldn’t have changed a thing as far as gun laws/idiology are concerned.

      Stop repeating lib arguments about how we wouldn’t be able to fight the cops or whatever and stop deluding yourself into thinking we don’t need them

      Yes!

      This is one article that really woke me up a long time ago, and I get good reception when sharing it with other anti-gun libs. Even if it doesn’t change their mind, it starts an actual discussion to slowly lead them out of their brainwashing later on:

      The Rifle on the Wall: A Left Argument for Gun Rights

      We should create a gun sub on chapo chat if that’s not the plan already. For anyone unfamiliar, these are some of the existing spaces for libs and leftists (each community with its own set of problems, but still useful):

      /r/LiberalGunOwners

      /r/SocialistRA

      /r/2Aliberals

    • QuipeConTe [she/her,he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Discover how to make projectiles that can be thrown. Go on a vision quest and ask the ancestors how to.

    • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Bow and arrow. Or crossbow.

      Actually been thinking about learning to use a light (60lb draw) bow, seems like a good skill. Already got a couple guns.

  • Gorn [they/them,he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Are guns helpful for self-defence, like, by the numbers? I've heard that you're more likely to injure yourself than defend yourself in a conflict, and that having a gun around escalates things. But I genuinely haven't looked much into it, and I'm not american so... just wondering!

    (also note: I have a gun)

    • a_jug_of_marx_piss [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I think the common interpretation of that statistic is bad. The chance of injuring yourself is astronomically small if you get proper training and handle the gun responsibly. It's just that the people who do not do those things get hurt a lot, playing with tools designed to kill.

      • Budwig_v_1337hoven [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Also, y'know... suicides. Especially among men, who are more likely to use more certain methods of ending it, guns are a favorite. Add to that suicide being most often a rather impulsive decision in a particularly low moment, having a gun at home can be a serious health hazard for everyone with some level of suicidal ideation.

      • Gorn [they/them,he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Ya! I feel like the chance of hurting yourself while cleaning, or at the range, is pretty low. It's not hard to follow the safety guidelines. I've just heard mixed messages from statistics around specifically using guns for self-defence. Like I've heard that you're more likely to hurt yourself than actually stop an attack, or whatever.

        I dunno, the country I'm in doesn't have a lot of violent crime, and people don't really use guns for self-defence, so I'm honestly just trying to understand where people are coming from when it comes to american gun culture and whatnot :) thanks for the good response :)

  • Kelly_Clarkson [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I've already got like 30 and just bought one last week, but if you say so I'll go get that 92X that's been calling to me.

  • dolphinhuffer [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    At least drop a hundo on the AR-15 lower and a couple of the good mags before President Dementia and VP Sassyfash try to export California's gun laws to the entire country.

  • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    If you don't feel comfortable buying a gun, consider buying body armor. LvlII+ kits, good ceramics, should cost you 400-600.

    • btr2mrw [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      just to head off the obvious question here is why you should not buy AR500 steel plates and should buy NIJ-certified ceramics instead (sorry its reddit but it's informative I promise).

      also I would say that a good first aid kit and basic first aid training (stop the bleed, CPR, and maybe something like WFR) should be a first purchase, before body armor. train before you buy the kit (even if its just manuals and youtube videos), and match your kit purchases to your skills. training will also help understand the difference between a military-style IFAK designed to keep someone from bleeding out or suffocating until they get professional care and a hiking/household first aid kit which may be more focused towards minor cuts/bruises/burns, sicknesses like colds/fever/indigestion and maintaining comfort (blister help etc). both are useful but make sure you know what you're buying and how to use it- match tools to skills and situation!

  • krothotkin [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Want to make a rec to those like me who maybe can’t get a gun from a local gun store because of state residency weirdness: consider getting a C and R license. It takes like a month or two and 50 bucks, which you’d normally pay for an FFL transfer anyway. A historical gun is better than no gun at all. Recently got mine and happy to explain the process.

  • karl [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Take a training/learning course at a range, learn with friends. Almost everyone should get an AR. They’re popular for a reason, and eventually you can build your own to an insane level of preference.