https://www.reddit.com/r/liberalgunowners/comments/14qv8xw/take_the_flag_back/

  • GaveUp [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    They literally just listed a bunch of things that black people did FOR America and nothing that America did for black people

      • VILenin [he/him]M
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        1 year ago

        Sweaty, I prefer to listen to people who didn’t get their brains blown out

  • President_Obama [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    played an integral part ... from the beginning

    By building it? Being enslaved and performing all of the labour? By being the reason it exists now?

    obama-socialism

    • Infamousblt [any]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah! Just be proud of what your ancestors literally slaved to build for white people!

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    1 year ago

    MF really started out with millionaires and Obama, liberals are fuckin ridiculous

    They literally know they're full of shit and continue anyway

  • Cloudx189 [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    You could tell they dont believe anything they wrote just by their inability to sell what they were cheaply sold about this place.

    • PKMKII [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      I think they realized there was no way to make their argument without hedging everything , otherwise it would descend into whitesplaining or accusing them of being indignant.

  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    "The most influential black people in the world have been American"

    Ignorant piece of shit.

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        You don't even need to go that far, you can just point out Nelson Mandela, Desmond Tutu, Patrice Lumumba, Kwame Mkrumah, Marcus Garvey*, Leonard Howell, Toussaint Louverture, Masna Musa, and someone educated on world history can probably name many more without reaching.

        *Immigrated to America, might not count for our purpose

    • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      To be fair, they probably also think the most influential Jews, Hispanic people, Asians, Arabs, and every other non-white groups in the world were also American.

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        While you definitely have a point, I think there is a special level of myopia here because of how Africans in America were deliberately separated from their cultural heritage and ancestry during the slave trade, largely unlike those other groups, which I think creates some of the disconnect in how African nations are discussed compared to, say, Brazil or India. It makes it easier to develop a hyperfocus on "the people of Africa" being African-Americans rather than the people who currently live in Africa, who are treated as an afterthought.

        If you look at how Hispanic or Indian people in America are treated almost like they are immigrants even if they are 5th generation, i.e. that they are "from" their ancestors' countries rather than their actual birthplace, I think this becomes apparent.

  • TheGamingLuddite [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    It's tragic that your ancestors had to sacrifice so much to build our beautiful throne of skulls, but you should celebrate the throne of skulls because some black people have been able to sit on it. Not you, but some! Please, no more divisive language questioning the need for a throne of skulls, Trump has already done enough.

    • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Not you, but some!

      That's what gets me. I don't know these black millionaires. Why would I give a fuck about these people?

  • huf [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    same energy as when hungarian opposition protests always sang the anthem at the end, in a desperate attempt to appear nationalist (though of course the majority of the protesters WERE nationalist as fuck).

    still got called cyclist gay jewish communist liberals by orban of course.

    so sad.

    • VILenin [he/him]M
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      1 year ago

      Liberals desperately licking the boot and getting curb stomped anyway

      • keepcarrot [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        You have the freedom to do that, and that flag represents the soldiers that died for that freedom. salutes until ejaculations, drown in bald eagle cum

      • ennemi [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Respect for the American flag, like any symbol, is a complex and subjective matter that can vary from person to person. Different individuals, including black people, may hold diverse perspectives on the flag and what it represents. Some reasons why a black person might choose to respect the American flag could include:

        Symbol of Freedom: The American flag can represent the ideals of freedom, liberty, and equality that are enshrined in the country's founding documents, such as the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Many black Americans have fought for and continue to fight for these values, striving to make America a more inclusive and just society.
        
        Symbol of Struggle: The flag can also represent the struggles and achievements of black Americans throughout history. Despite facing immense challenges and systemic racism, many black individuals have contributed significantly to the country's development, and the flag can symbolize their resilience, perseverance, and progress.
        
        Participation in Democracy: Respecting the flag can be seen as an acknowledgment of the democratic process and a desire to engage in the ongoing work of shaping the nation. By honoring the flag, individuals can express their commitment to promoting positive change and working towards a more equitable society.
        
        Unity and Shared Identity: The flag can serve as a unifying symbol, representing a shared national identity that transcends individual differences. By showing respect for the flag, some black individuals may seek to foster unity and emphasize their belonging within the diverse fabric of American society.
        

        However, it's important to recognize that not all black individuals or members of any other group will have the same perspective on the flag. The flag has also been associated with a history of racial inequality and systemic oppression, which can make it a complex symbol for some people, including black Americans. Respecting the flag is a personal choice that depends on individual experiences, beliefs, and values. It's essential to approach discussions about the flag and its meaning with empathy, openness, and respect for diverse perspectives.

  • TawnyFroggy [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    There is a commercial on whatever it is my mom is always watching for a show about "who will be the next black billionaire." and it really sounds like whatever the race version of girlboss is. Same energy.

  • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    "Black people have been very useful to America" is a very weird reason to respect the country.

    Seriously, his reasons are:

    -Played an integral part from the beginning (slavery was the beginning; I wonder if this person realizes what they're saying when they say that)

    -Black millionaires, black president, and core aspects of American culture come from African American culture

    -Black people have been very influential (and apparently this person thinks the most influential black people came from America)

    -Black people have loved and died for the flag

    So.......basically, "Black people have been very useful to America"

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    edit-2
    1 year ago

    Anyone that says "for our flag" needs a slap. Absolutely batshit ultranationalist country where even the """left""" are incapable of seeing just how far right the things they say are.

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    The one and only time anyone should have been even a little proud of the US flag was when it was being carried by the bunch of German Communist regiments burning Atlanta to the ground.

  • Moss [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    from that thread

    I’ve had a flag up on the front of my house since we voted that orange fuck out.

    God that was such a satisfying vote to cast, as was voting against that moron running for governor in Arizona Karen Lake.

    i wish for every liberal in the world to be struck down by god