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  • kristina [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    honestly im kinda against it too. i hate cars and believe it or not, passenger planes are more efficient than cars in most cases, but especially over long distance. it should be noted that includes electric vehicles, theyre usually only 10-30% more efficient carbon wise than gas cars, at least in part due to our grid's reliance on gas. planes are still a form of mass transit, i just wish we could go to even more carbon reducing options. like if i could take a 8 hour high speed rail trip that costs the same as a 6 hour plane ride, id obviously do the HSR

    to summarize: car culture is so fucking insane that driving a 400k pound mass of metal into the sky is cheaper carbon wise assuming the plane has a good number of passengers in it. and planes are only going to get better now that high density batteries are a reality.

    but yeah they should absolutely tax the shit out of personal jets

    • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      but yeah they should absolutely tax the shit out of personal jets

      I think you mean "but yeah they should absolutely obama-drone the shit out of personal jets"

      • iridaniotter [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        I think the argument goes that if you're still going to keep capitalists, you can do more to combat climate change by using taxes on these activities than banning them. But the best thing for the climate would be to expropriate all private wealth of course.

    • happybirthdaygonzolo [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      people should just be traveling less tbh. like give me a good reason why someone should go halfway across the earth unless they are permanently migrating somewhere else? travel is a treat.

      • D61 [any]
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        1 year ago

        "Seeing the world is bad actually"

        ~ hexbear dot net

        /s

        • RuthlessCriticism [comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          It is a privilege, that is destroying the environment. If you want to see the world by electric train or sailing boat, then fine.

  • FuckyWucky [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    yea because people in the U.S. are incredibly car brained and there is no easy way to get from one end of the country to another without flights. even if they don't fly its still on their minds.

    i love how anti-renewables republicans are, even the most basic thing of tripling investment is too much for them. god damn America.

    • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      And the tax would be for flying multiple times in a year. The tax wouldn't target people going back home for the holidays, just "business" travelers and upper class ghouls who go around the US jet-setting

  • micnd90 [he/him,any]
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    1 year ago

    Most Europeans don't fly that much, maybe once a year for summer vacation because of the train system. Most Americans had to fly around the continental US because the interstate train system is absolute shambles.

        • StewartCopelandsDad [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          There shouldn't be suburbs but there are. Also you have to go more than 30 miles from Chicago to get to relatively unmolested nature for camping, or to an outdoor gun range, roller coasters, or any other land-heavy entertainment. Unavoidable effect of cities if land use is dictated by profit.

  • Lerios [hy/hym]
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    1 year ago

    i love how even the conservatives in the uk are pro taxing flights because not even the middle class bastards in this country get to travel anymore cowboy-cri

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    I keep pointing out that democrats are to the right of tories. This literally confirms that half of them are on climate issues. I really want more things like this that show it so clearly.

  • lmaozedong
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    1 year ago

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  • Galli [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    sure I don't fly now but I don't want to be taxed on my private jet flights when I become a billionaire any day now

  • iridaniotter [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    Well on the bright side, the data from other countries shows that treats addiction is not a universal phenomenon.