We're getting scapegoated for the DDOS attack that affected us too yesterday, all because @Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net made one (admittedly kinda funny) joke here.
Normally I wouldn't post petty internet bullshit like this but I thought our admins should know.
Edit: Entire thread is a gold mine for dunk tank material tho
Edit2: Now the Spook of @Alaskaball@hexbear.net is getting namedropped
Edit3: So after some digging (read: 5 mins browsing lemmy instances) another user made this post saying the attacker was someone with a personal beef with .world completely unrelated to us? Documented methodology of attack is different but similar to the spam bot we got hit with too, but idk I'm just amateur hour here not an OpSec pro.
Edit4: I was trying to click on the links provided in that post to double check but lemmy.world went down 
Edit5: Official Statement
So who is attacking us? One thing that is clear is that those responsible of these attacks know the ins and outs of Lemmy. They know which database requests are the most taxing and they are always quick to find another as soon as we close one off. That’s one of the only things we know for sure about our attackers. Being the biggest instance and having defederated with a couple of instances has made us a target.
Damn, I never knew what it was like to live somewhere rent-free until now
I tried lemm.ee and it’s cool but I see so many hexbear posts on the All tab from like any of their communities spewing hate and it’s frustrating to scroll past
Lmao must be rough
What hate? Lmao what counts as hate to these people?
I made a hate post. I said I hate all Magpies because the other day one took my pizza slice when I had my head turned and wouldn't give it back. And I'm pretty sure it was laughing at me.
They watched it burn the first time around, I'm sure they're happy to see us end up like the (non-avian) dinosaurs
Hi. I'm not a local, but I chronically sort by All. I don't think I've seen a single post from y'all that had any genuine sense of vitriol. In fact, I find this instance to have a sense of humor that I would describe as "inclusively self disparaging". I fucks with that.
The loudest voices on lemmy.world have zero sense of humor, combined with a victim complex. It's not fun.
The loudest voices on lemmy.world have zero sense of humor, combined with a victim complex. It's not fun.
As evidenced by them seriously thinking someone oh hexbear hacked their shit.
Wow they're really are attacking themselves and thinking it's us, huh.
Liberals stabbing themselves and then blaming commies, name a more iconic duo
That no one bothered to check if we were down as well before slinging accusations is really telling, I think. I only wandered in there by accident because I was curious if other lemmy instances were affected by the DDoS attack on us.
Lmao, federation/defederation will be a problem that solves itself, but it's been very entertaining so far
Locking myself in my room and refusing to answer the door, then crying because my engagement has tanked out and this must also be Hexbear gaming the system.
There are people in the thread pointing out that it's been a recurring issue to do with Lemmy itself, but noooooooo spoooky commies
I’m literally the most left person I personally know by a wide margin, and I got called a reactionary
Like it literally said “trans people should be able to do whatever the fuck they want with their body, I don’t care, it doesn’t effect me”
I don’t care, it doesn’t effect me”
I’m literally the most left person
I don’t care, it doesn’t effect me”
I’m literally the most left person
I don’t care, it doesn’t effect me”
https://lemmy.ml/comment/2430666
What a lying piece of shit he is. He didn't make a post supportive of trans people, he literally barged in here and told us we should talk less about trans issues. He had the fucking audacity to walk into a queer space and tell trans people to shut up about our lifes in our safe space, and now he still cries big baby tears about being banned for that months later.
Oh of course we could talk less about trans issues, just face the wall for a second really quick.
To be fair ...
I’m literally the most left person I personally know by a wide margin, and I got called a reactionary
Would be a banger of a tagline if it came from us and not some shit transphob.
That just makes it a better tagine. Imagine coming here and seeing your own comment you got banned for as the taglinee.
petitioning the devs to give the mods an extra removal button that removes + appends a comment to the tagline
it's still a good tagline. some of our best taglines are from reactionaries
I’m literally the most left person I personally know by a wide margin
maybe you should know better people then
I don’t care, it doesn’t effect me
yes, when you remove that part of the sentence it does sound bad. otherwise it sounds like they supported trans rights. i'm real confused on how yall are reading that. if "i don't care" is bad, then they should actually care deeply about what other people do with their body? I'm pretty sure that isn't it either. maybe it's word salad and should say "i dont care what people do with their body, it doesn't effect me." Which sounds like a good thing to me.
I think there are situations where that guy's comment are fine, and situations where it's not, and their telling of the story most likely hides a shitty reactionary context.
Like that thing where antifeminists show up in feminist discussions and start talking about male circumcision; it's a legitimate issue (that feminists care about!) being used to shout over a different one. Or like how "all lives matter" was used to shout down people saying "black lives matter," even though the statement "all lives matter" would be good in response to anti-homeless rhetoric.
i agree they might not be telling the whole story either.
Yeah he wasn't, he actually demanded that leftists should talk less about trans issues. On hexbear. He demanded that trans people shut up in their safe spaces, that turd of a human being. And then he got all defensive and gaslighty and trying to weaponize his identity, all "i was bullied in school for being gay" or "i'm bi myself" and incoherent, contradictory shit like that.
Between this and how they talk about "oh i loved being on the sub but hexbear is just a shitshow" I can probably guess when and from what struggle session they left.
I think we're used to having good mods whose decisions aren't worth questioning; this was often not the case on the subreddit, though.Never mind, I just re-read their comment--this supposedly happened here on Hexbear. Bullshit, there's zero chance it happened the way they said.
Further edit: holy shit he's talking about this post, just a tiny bit of contextual info left out lmao
Oh wow, i had completely forgotten about that asshole. Glad that transphobic piece of shit hasn't forgotten about us, though.
Yeah I gotta hand it to @VolatileExhaustPipe@lemmygrad.ml for doing that sleuthing, or I'd never have found it myself.
Why the fuck would he think using a shabibo emoji was a good idea on top of the other shit in that terrible argument?
I feel like the "I don't care about [issue], it doesn't affect me" mindset ends up going down the south park libertarian path of "and this is why anyone who cares about this issue either way is bad."
I might be wrong, but being on the left should come from a place of empathy and solidarity, not apathy.
that's actually what happened here. they literally told us to care less about trans rights
The thing is, that's not what actually happened. They basically made a post where they suggested that we were talking too much about trans stuff and this was somehow contributing to the right's obsession with trans people
Grill pill is not the farthest left there is, and that's basically grill pill
I don't understand how to read that other than as a defense of bodily autonomy. In the same way that I'm not invested in any specific individuals decision to get an abortion or not, while still defending and supporting the right to an abortion.
Well it's coming from a person who literally got banned for making a thread on here were he demanded we should talk less about trans issues. It's not a defense of bodily autonomy, it's entirely a defense of his liberal ass against 100% justified accusations of open transphobia and wrecking.
A "I don’t care, it doesn’t effect me" is clearly supporting the status quo. How is that working out for women in the USA?
We must be active, vocal, unwavering, and have no bounds in our support towards vulnerable groups. Like our women and trans comrades.
Anything else is reactionary.
We must be active, vocal, unwavering, and have no bounds in our support towards vulnerable groups. Like our women and trans comrades.
Absolutely in terms of supports of rights for the groups, but we must be fundamentally deflationary about the effects any particular, individual manifestation of those rights has on other people. If an individuals particular exercise of bodily autonomy is taken to have meaningful practical impacts on others, it becomes fair game for moral and political interference, such as the (lack of a) right to curl my finger around the trigger of an SKS and fire it into the air.
I think there's something of a conflation going on between supporting the groups right to exercise bodily autonomy, which is a moral obligation as a leftist, and the obligation to be invested in any particular expression of that bodily autonomy. If we hold to the latter we're implicitly giving other people a veto over other people's expression of gender identity, which is bad.
To wit, I can defend the right to abortion, but I am in no position to tell any woman they should or should not get an abortion. I can help them understand their choice and it's consequences, but I have no right normatively to tell them how they should exercise that choice.
yea they should care about what people do with their bodies, and think it effects them. that would be much better.
Yeah that's a bad take from a doofus, but the original comment seemed to take issue with the statement in a vacuum.
It's the same as the difference between "I'm not racist" and being anti-racist.
Most Americans think they are not racist because they aren't actively and consciously hurting people based on their race. They're just supporting racist systems and refuse to break those down or challenge their unconscious biases. They don't care that people are black, they just don't want to hear about their problems.
I disagree, for the reasons outlined below. You can be actively pro-choice and pro-trans rights without being personally involved with and invested in every particular manifestation of those rights.
within these people are a sort of poison, one that entrenches them in their symbols and attack others with pride, like an idiot.
Gold mine for new taglines lmao
Ooh, we've got a poet over here! Can he organize or explain his beliefs tho?
I love all the people there recommending people should stop using lemmy.world "for the health of the fediverse" lol
lol at whoever that Fawxhox dipshit is whining about being banned for a week for being dumb about trans people, good riddance
First, they came for the transphobes...
And then I said good, get fucked lmao
First, they came for the transphobes...
And I did not stand up because I was ROFLMAO
Did you see later in the thread where they got called out with screenshots of our modlog?
I didn't, but looked at it now and surprise, it's much worse than what they described. I always get suspicious whenever some makes claims about moderation being too strict when it comes to trans issues, and the suspicions are practically always confirmed.
Would I be wrong to say this is straight up McCarthyism? This is clearly a witch-hunt against left communities for being left and no other reason. I still have not seen any evidence to justify the kind of negative treatment this community has received from some of the other lemmy instances.
During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it.
this but they're mad about posting online
Hexbear turned me into a NEWT!
Couldn't even show me the decency of turning me into an owl or a bear.
No, I did it
I shut down the libbyverse or whatever with my 90's hacking skills, you just served as a decoy
Or maybe I'm joking too, or maybe I'm not. Who knows? I'm too irony poisoned to tell if I'm being serious here
It was me making a browser so cursed that not only does it crash immediately but so does the system report crash process so you don’t even know why it crashes
Someone on Lemmy.world must have seen it
Nah you're not the one that needs to touch grass
Besides, we're historical materialists, if your shit-posting didn't set off this dumbass circle jerk of red scare paranoia, it would've just been a matter of time before any one of us replying in another instance did so
Damn, I never knew what it was like to live somewhere rent-free until now
lemmy.world are evil tankies, they are putting good landlords out of business!
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