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American media is genuinely so busted lol like how can you write this article and expect to be taken seriously. Here are some more examples of their “journalism”

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  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    "Look! This rich American grifter larping as a redneck really has a lot to say about our lives!"

    • Some Chinese agricultural worker, presumably
    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 months ago

      Didn't the un come through a while ago and say that parts of appalachia have some of the worst conditions in the world? Like no qualifiers about oecd or developed countries, appalachia is just that bad in some places?

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      2 months ago

      Not only that, but the government is trying to revitalize and modernize the country side to encourage more people to live there, particularly young people. https://crossingtheriver.substack.com/p/exploring-the-reality-of-chinas-new

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      2 months ago

      Also given the fact that Rural China pre CPC was an unrelenting hellhole that Appalachia could not imagine, where a "rich" family was one that ate Wheat and not Millet, and had meat 3 times a year.

      • CloutAtlas [he/him]
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        2 months ago

        Thrice a year was actually above average for certain parts.

        My grandfather recounted having to eat boiled grass to survive winters during the occupation after my great grandfather died (in a Japanese occupied coal mine). His family would eat offal once a year during spring festival as their only indulgence.

        You rarely see men that excited to be presented with liver and stomach lining, a Pavlovian response to the dishes from when he was a child. His memory of 疙瘩湯 was just boiled bits of dough seasoned with salt.

        These people have no idea what type of material conditions we came from and the suffering we endured on our way to building socialism.

        You watch interviews with people who participated in the Long March and it's not people filled with regret that they didn't become millionaires. It's people who are grateful that their efforts, sacrifices, dealing with starvation, exhaustion, disease and death every day to preserve the nascent Communist Party as resulted in a better life for the people

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          2 months ago

          Yeah. Horrific, almost impossible to visualise.

          I'm reminded of the lines from the Chartist's Anthem

          Ye men of bone, of shrunken shank, your only treasure dearth

          Women who carry at their breasts, heirs to the hungry earth

          Speak with one voice, we march, we fall, and march again upon the years

          Those weren't hyperbole, that's what actually happened to the poor in the 19th century, in the rich Imperial core.

          And only the partial, halting achievements Socialists have made there stopped that (with the help of our more successful comrades in AES.)

    • CarmineCatboy2 [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      the 'rural areas being left behind' are growing faster than anywhere on the planet, btw. all the chinese factories that people think are moving to mexico or vietnam are actually mostly moving to the chinese interior.

      • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]
        hexagon
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        2 months ago

        If the “rural areas being left behind” in China are not counted in global poverty statistics over the past 40 years, the number of people living in poverty globally has risen. Yet, when you count the so-called “rural areas being left behind” in China in global poverty statistics over the past 40 years, the number of people living in poverty globally has fallen.

        Which means that there is literally like… one place on the entire planet where the rural poor are NOT being left behind. I wish somebody could tell us where it is.

  • Gucci_Minh [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    Shuli Ren

    Anyone with a Chinese sounding name writing columns for western propaganda outlets is either:

    1. Brainwashed west worshipping lib who thinks if they act white enough they can be honorary whites too

    or

    1. Falungong/Falungong adjacent CIA plant

    Beware of the Boba amerikkkans, and don't listen to anyone Mao would have dunce capped.

    • Rojo27 [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      https://www.asifma.org/speakers/shuli-ren/

      Shuli Ren is a Bloomberg Opinion columnist covering Asian markets. She previously wrote on markets for Barron’s, following a career as an investment banker at Lehman Brothers in New York. She studied Economics at the University of Chicago and is a CFA charterholder.

      buggy-disappointed

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 months ago

    Xi was literally a plumber and got caked in shit regularly building poop reactors for heating

    • D61 [any]
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      2 months ago

      If this is true, my whole world has just been made 100% more amazing.

      Super Mario Brothers theme plays in my head every time I see a picture of Xi

      • kristina [she/her]
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        2 months ago

        Its true, from an interview before he was made leader

        • D61 [any]
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          2 months ago

          Everything is better outside the USA, even the "before they were the leader" stories.

      • grazing7264 [they/them, comrade/them]
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        2 months ago

        The community leaders have a story of him during an emergency (without time change out his clothes into PPE gear) diving into the overflowing clogged poop tank to stop it from exploding lol

        • egg1918 [she/her]
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          2 months ago

          Do you know where I can read more about Xi's early/personal life? The bits of his story I do know of are fascinating

    • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      Not much different from Vance who is covered in shit often as well when The Help can’t wipe his ass for him

    • buckykat [none/use name]
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      2 months ago

      Xi was literally one of the students in the Down to the Countryside Movement.

    • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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      2 months ago

      Do they use the same kind of methane reclamation systems like in the DPRK?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBqeC8ihsO8&t=3899s

      • kristina [she/her]
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        2 months ago

        that looks similar to what xi described, yeah

        he described it as a big mound of dirt piled on shit with various pipes in it. one of the pipes got clogged (threatening a dangerous explosion) and he unclogged it and got absolutely blasted in the face and mouth with poop. he also said his work crew laughed at him lol and that it humbled him greatly. he said he realized he was not so much smarter than rural people then, they suggested originally that they just evacuate the area and let it explode but he was stubborn and didnt want to lose all the work they did making it.

  • citrussy_capybara [ze/hir]
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    2 months ago

    “Vance inspires 300mil rural Chinese people to get latex gloves and a pair of couch cushions so that a billionaire may one day pay them to be a puppet” - a serious journalist

  • ChaosMaterialist [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    The Opinion section is the daycare of the ruling class. It exists for them to whine.

  • ButtBidet [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    Where's the fecking stat that 300 million are left behind? Or did they just count the totally number of rural people?

  • carpoftruth [any, any]M
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    2 months ago

    Im going to leave this here because it already has a lot of comments, but in the future, Bloomberg opinion pieces about what rural Chinese people think about jd vance or equally vacuous articles belong in the dunk tank, not in news

    • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      Completely understood. I was going to post it there originally but thought that the dunk tank was basically only social media dunking, so last second decided to do it here since technically it’s on a news website.

  • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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    2 months ago

    hillbilly elegy is dogshit. literally every single excerpt i've seen from that book is navel gazing musings larping as class consciousness. i told meemaw and pepepep i was gay and they asked if i sucked dicks (literally in the book). real working class appalaichinchilas sleep in their bloojeans, pajamas are for the decadent coastal elites (literally in the book)

    • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      As a person from Appalachia myself who did read his book, your assessment of the work is accurate.

      Meanwhile, actual Appalachian politics:

      People living in Appalachia: Please. Somebody help us. We will vote for anybody who promises to do something to materially improve our living conditions.

      Democrats: We will literally do nothing to help you. You should have thought a little bit harder about becoming poor and isolated directly because of our policies (spits at their feet) sorry not sorry. You disgust me.

      Republicans: damn lmao what the hell I can’t believe those guys actually straight up admitted that to you. Oh, what? You want a job or something? No, we won’t give you that, but at least we aren’t the team that openly disrespects you. We promise to only ever do that behind your back!

  • dannoffs [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    Why would anyone in China have even heard of JD Vance?

    • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      They wouldn’t. The average American can’t fathom that the rest of the world exists, let alone the fact that the rest of the world hardly knows anything about America. I’d feel pretty decent placing a bet that 40% of Americans couldn’t name a single politician actively in office from another country without multiple choice

      • fox [comrade/them]
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        2 months ago

        Uhh ever heard of Putin and zelensky much??? SMH my head these tankies think we don't watch msnbc

        • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          2 months ago

          Oh yeah? Nice try, but not even the president of the United States of America could correctly identify the country each one of those people are politicians in

        • dannoffs [he/him]
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          2 months ago

          Uhm I know Drumpf and he's a foreign politician because he's a RuZZian asset.

    • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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      2 months ago

      I've been reading tons of posts here every day and while i probably read that name already some times, i only realised about who JD Vance exactly is just now.

  • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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    2 months ago

    Notice that they can't say 'impoverished'. They can only say things that have vague legal definitions.

  • skeletorsass [she/her]
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    2 months ago

    Vance is a source of fascination in China

    Who? Never hear of him before he is picked. Nobody will read this man's book.

    • dannoffs [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      A ton of people already read his book, it was literally everywhere in 2016. The popularity of his book is how he rose to any prominence in the first place.

      • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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        2 months ago

        You’re right! I now remember seeing his books in the entry section of a local bookstore. This was when anti-trump literature sold pretty well and so the bookstores always bumped them to the front.

      • skeletorsass [she/her]
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        2 months ago

        Nobody will read his book in China. inshallah there will be more bad leadership in amerikkka