Let’s address Zenz first since you naively seem to believe him to be the only example. What exactly about his claim (not he himself, but the claims he made using data provided directly by the ccp itself) do you find so hard to believe that you would dismiss any accusation of genocide at all as being a psy-op.
Fill your boots: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d0lynghlCnR6Hs57pypEEhlhHczFVgaYX-TIZD61s_w/edit?ouid=104343924564237344347&usp=docs_home&ths=true
I didn’t ask for a document related to Zenz. I asked that specific person what specific things about what Zenz claimed using data provided directly by China itself do they feel disqualifies any discussion at all about the uyghur genocide.
The reality is that 99-100% of the people here claiming the genocide is fake news are just parroting what other people here have said, because that’s what they care about. They’d rather fit in with the community than actually look into whether or not people are being tortured, sterilized, raped, whatever.
Cmon this should be a softball! It’s Adrian Zenz! Everyone here hates him so much they don’t care if China is killing thousands of people! If you can’t even address that, what’s the point of taking you seriously?
Being not a lib means supporting a hyper capitalist terror state role playing as a communist govt that has the total backing of corporate America. The more corporations I make happy, the less of a lib I am _
Why should i whitewash the truth to make sensitive white commie larpers feel better about supporting a hyper capitalist terror state that has the support of every corporation in America
The only comment in that thread is someone from the sub pointing that out as false information. How about you take something thousands of people have been killed over seriously for a little longer than the two seconds it took you to dismiss it completely.
We do know. Check the sub. Read the accounts. Fight the reflex to resort to ad hominems and consider the stark realities of life in China for these people. If you don’t care, it’s not my job to make you, but it should be clear by now this goes a little farther than Zenz.
Stop regurgitating and uncritically consuming unsubstantiated propaganda that has been rejected for investigation by the international courts as "without evidence". Hearsay from a handful of dissidents amplified by thousands and thousands of media rehashes of the same content over and over and over again is not evidence. This is extremely lib.
Ad hominem: attacking someones character instead of their argument
If the only thing you have to say in response to the claims these people are making is stupid greentext nonsense meant to derail and delegitimize discussion because you don’t like who is saying it, then you aren’t taking it seriously and just resorting to ad hominems.
Only for a very limited definition of argument, which is a logical construct that goes from premises to a conclusion.
They're not critiquing the argument, they're critiquing the credibility of the premises, as they require you to trust their source as they are a claim and not evidence.
No, the guy exterminating muslims in his country did not “save the world”.
hi CIA.
People are being tortured and mutilated in concentration camps in China right now but yeah, whatever you need to tell yourself.
Do you have literally any evidence for this that does not come from Adrian Zenz?
Let’s address Zenz first since you naively seem to believe him to be the only example. What exactly about his claim (not he himself, but the claims he made using data provided directly by the ccp itself) do you find so hard to believe that you would dismiss any accusation of genocide at all as being a psy-op.
Fill your boots: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d0lynghlCnR6Hs57pypEEhlhHczFVgaYX-TIZD61s_w/edit?ouid=104343924564237344347&usp=docs_home&ths=true
How about you directly answer my question instead of hiding behind a nonsequitor link like a bitch
You asked about Zenz and were given a document that in part discusses Zenz. I don't think that counts as a nonsequitor.
I didn’t ask for a document related to Zenz. I asked that specific person what specific things about what Zenz claimed using data provided directly by China itself do they feel disqualifies any discussion at all about the uyghur genocide.
The reality is that 99-100% of the people here claiming the genocide is fake news are just parroting what other people here have said, because that’s what they care about. They’d rather fit in with the community than actually look into whether or not people are being tortured, sterilized, raped, whatever.
How about you show us your dick?
Hi CCP
So...that's a no?
Cmon this should be a softball! It’s Adrian Zenz! Everyone here hates him so much they don’t care if China is killing thousands of people! If you can’t even address that, what’s the point of taking you seriously?
lmao, literally shut the fuck up, you smooth brained lib
Being not a lib means supporting a hyper capitalist terror state role playing as a communist govt that has the total backing of corporate America. The more corporations I make happy, the less of a lib I am _
lol
post hog, chud
No they aren’t
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Why should i whitewash the truth to make sensitive white commie larpers feel better about supporting a hyper capitalist terror state that has the support of every corporation in America
FUCK CHINA for creating guantanamo bay
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https://www.reddit.com/r/FreeTheUyghurs/
There you go. Take your pick.
Lmao literally the second post on that sub has an image from detention centers in Texas claiming it’s from xinjiang.
The only comment in that thread is someone from the sub pointing that out as false information. How about you take something thousands of people have been killed over seriously for a little longer than the two seconds it took you to dismiss it completely.
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We do know. Check the sub. Read the accounts. Fight the reflex to resort to ad hominems and consider the stark realities of life in China for these people. If you don’t care, it’s not my job to make you, but it should be clear by now this goes a little farther than Zenz.
Stop regurgitating and uncritically consuming unsubstantiated propaganda that has been rejected for investigation by the international courts as "without evidence". Hearsay from a handful of dissidents amplified by thousands and thousands of media rehashes of the same content over and over and over again is not evidence. This is extremely lib.
See above
Post hog.
What is it with you guys and organs? Hands off
While I commend your commitment to your Volcel pledge, do you really not understand "post hog?" Can I ask how you found this site?
They are probably CIA; they are trying to turn you guys against China, they need everyone on their side, even leftists
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you love to see it
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Ad hominem: attacking someones character instead of their argument
If the only thing you have to say in response to the claims these people are making is stupid greentext nonsense meant to derail and delegitimize discussion because you don’t like who is saying it, then you aren’t taking it seriously and just resorting to ad hominems.
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So don’t believe his crackpot shit. Focus on the stuff that he took directly from China itself
Only for a very limited definition of argument, which is a logical construct that goes from premises to a conclusion.
They're not critiquing the argument, they're critiquing the credibility of the premises, as they require you to trust their source as they are a claim and not evidence.
uhhhh....*pushes glasses up nose*...that's a logical fallacy....*snorts*....ad hominem, le epically owned
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This comment is funny and original.
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Zing! Say it louder for the ethnic cleansers in the back! LOL!
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What’s it like to back a government that has the support of every corporation in America and think you’re fighting capitalism?