The meat to bone ratio per wing is dreadful, and they also leave your hands a greasy sticky mess
with legs and wings, it harder to ignore the body count for me. Like 6 wings means 3 chickens died. Like, obviously, breast are a one-to-one, but its less obvious somehow. Its like steak or hamburger; it could be 1/100th of a cow.
edit: i'm barely even vegetarian these days. I need to rebuild some habits
A couple of months ago, I got one of those rotisserie chickens half off near closing time at a supermarket. This lead to me spending the evening re-enacting Goya's Saturn Devouring His Son in front of my computer. I felt like one of those chimps you see in nature documentaries eating a baby gibbon
I had some fired burned steak yesterday. shits good. primal and bloody. but one of those things that even normal people wouldn't do if they knew what the whole process looked like start to finish. pretty sure /r/happycows is a psyop by the meat industry
/r/happycows is a psyop by the meat industry
Good rule of thumb:
Tag in the ear usually means commercial cow
No tag is usually a rescue/pet/subsistence cowgalaxy brain: the meat industry donates to nonprofits that rescue animals from the meat industry, based on nothing.
I loved fishing as a kid, but currently I couldn't really handle hooking worms or bashing a fish's head in with a club and then gutting it.
I feel bad enough when I feed live insects to my pets
there is a whole series of horror movies that I think would be sick to make that are just how humans treat different animals. obviously the meat industry is low hanging fruit, but this is some good shit
Fishing and releasing is one of the most evil activities if you really think it through.
mmmmmm cauliflower 👌👌👌😋😋😋😋 fried cauliflower tossed in sauce 😳👀👀👀😋😋😋
I want to be vegan. I also don’t know why, but I don’t feel bad about the whole eating sentient beings thing. Watched the documentaries, all that. I’ve taken breaks from meat multiple times. One day I think I’ll join the crew. Maybe if I dated a vegan that would help.
For me it's the lifetime of suffering in trade for maybe 10 minutes of enjoyment eating chicken legs.
I could say the same thing about every fruit and vegetable. Migrants are forced to live a life of suffering just so I can eat some broccoli. Or the soy industry actively destroying the rainforest.
I could also flip that and say a worker suffers in trade labor, at least give them 10 minutes of enjoyment with that wing. Like someone posted they were depressed and hadn’t eaten in a week so they bought some chicken tacos. My worry comes for the human before the animal. And if that chicken kept them alive another day I’m glad they ate. When I went vegan I also found myself just not eating and relying on other unhealthy outlets.
Veganism falls into the category of personal responsibility that I don’t latch onto. If we want to change our system and ban meat production I’m down, but shaming people into a personal responsibility argument never seems to work.
Migrants are forced to live a life of suffering just so I can eat some broccoli. Or the soy industry actively destroying the rainforest.
Yes, the same happens for them to grow and harvest soy, which is then fed to the meat animals. Eating meat contains the suffering that comes with eating vegetables within it and will always be worse.
I could also flip that and say a worker suffers in trade labor, at least give them 10 minutes of enjoyment with that wing.
Enjoyment doesn't only come from bad things and making that argument is dumb. "Let the [impoverished community] enjoy cigarettes, let the [impoverished community] enjoy heroin."
No, how about we work towards ending their suffering and the suffering and exploitation of migrant workers in factory farming as well as the animals being tortured.
Think before you post this shit.
Heroin and cigarettes are not foods that allows people to survive.
I’m all for ending the suffering. I also would not advocate people to stop eating broccoli in order to end the suffering of those picking the broccoli. Why is that the go to stance for vegans?
incorrect. Wings at least are appropriately rated. Wings are a casual appetizer. They aren't for a royal wedding main course. They serve them at Pizza Hut. Every chicken produces two wings. We HAVE to eat the wings. If TGI Fridays is too good for them, do they belong at McDonald's, the trash?
The best cuts aren't the ones that are bursting with the most meat. Wings can literally be the best meat on the bird. A wing only has to spend like 4 minutes in a fryer. You'll struggle to get any other cut as crispy. I'm one of those people who think that the real star of the chicken is the skin and the flavors you put on it. Wings specialize in that.
Can you honestly say that the parts you eat are worse than the other cuts? Or are you just being American and your problem is that it isn't making you maximally full with minimal effort?
Shit take bud but also ❤️ ❤️❤️❤️
I agree that the best cuts of meat (on chicken anyways) are the moist fat parts with lots of skin. That way it's juicy on the inside and crispy on the outside.
But the best cut for me by far is the tail, which you can only appreciate if you roast a whole chicken. It is the crown jewel of the chicken, and it's only downside is that it's small enough to eat in one bite. ✨
Hell yes. I went to a yakitori spot in Austin a couple years ago where you could order skewers of just chicken butts and god damnit, it fuckin' ruled.
Getting buffalo sauce all over your face and attacking the wing like a dog is the best part honestly.
Would you believe libs got mad at this guy because he was a white man tying up crucial govt resources for a joke while there were serious issues to address? It’s true.
I go with boneless "wings" whenever I'm not in the mood to wrangle with bones/sinew and the inevitable mess that entails, but still want to eat tasty saucy chicken.
The only time I deal with it is when I'm making wings myself, in which case, I don't bread them. Just season a bit, bake, then throw them in the sauce and let them rest a bit.
Seconded, and the hardest to fuck up by far. There's like a 30 degree temperature range where they come out good.
Butter, thyme, oregano, salt, pepper, garlic powder, smoked paprika, in the oven at 400 until they are 155 internal temp, then broiler on high until the skin is crispy.
Sounds crazy, but it's true. All you gotta do is season those fuckers and roast them with some vegetables in your oven. Cook up some rice or another carb/grain and you have an entire dinner and it's easy to make enough for a few meals throughout the week too
This may be my poverty speaking but have you tried "off cut" recipes? I had a bunch of chicken feet growing up in Hubei and I insist it's the most underrated part of the chicken. If you cook it right. I can't imagine it's in high demand in the west and therefore expensive. My grandmother's stir fried giblets are also to die for.
I worked at a ramen shop and I would fish out the chicken feet from the giant pots of broth, fry them and sauce them and it was such a treat.
So, I've always wondered since I had chickens when I was a kid and they had pretty gross feet. Anyway, what about the feet skin and the bones? Watching Li Zuqi, they appear pretty clean.
After they're cooked for a long time, they're insanely soft because they are mostly collagen. You kind of just let them melt in your mouth and spit the bones out.
That wasn't my argument for why it's the tastiest. I'm saying to try that and see for yourself.
Caveat being that of course you can come up with more involved recipes for breasts that you may prefer and are more versatile. But if we are talking about comparing the different cuts just seasoned and cooked, I'd go with thighs.
Jamaican jerk style chicken thighs are my go-to summer picnic food
the entire point is the skin, so its best deep fried into cracklin
I was eating some cream of chicken soup and I stopped without finishing a single bowl because the chicken meat was so finely shredded it tasted like I was eating hair.
Meat in general is kinda overrated.
drizzle some mayo on a milk bun, cover it in pork floss and you got a pork sung bun
Oh hey, there's a name for that stuff I've accidentally made out of leftover barbecue.
Wings are for making stock, they make the best fuckin' stock you've ever seen.
As an inveterate honky I completely forgot about the feet, you're probably right.
Even buying stock, and then fortifying it with a couple of wings, or saving wing tips and using those to fortify pre-made stock makes a huge difference.
Im a sucker for breast only because i prefer having less fat and other non edible stuff that i naw on forever. thigh always has some tendon or fat i end up getting grossed out by but its in my mouth so i gotta swallow it
thigh always has some tendon or fat i end up getting grossed out by but its in my mouth so i gotta swallow it
That's the good part though!
Oh of course. thats super common and I know Im the weird one here haha
The thighs I've bought have been pretty tendon free, luckily, and I'll definitely substitute them for breasts if I can't find any on special offer
oh 100% agreed to use them as a back up! I dont mind thigh at all!! just have a bad experience with it frequent enough to not make it my goto
Breast is definitely king though, probably my favourite meat
Yeah but they’re all greasy and salty and you can eat them with buffalo sauce and ranch and mmmmmm wings
