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  • ashinadash [she/her]
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    2 months ago

    thonk-trans I dunno... internally denying your gender so hard that you start feeling kinship to animals instead? It seems to me like being a furry (or otherkin, or therian) is the only thing more stigmatised than being trans in this regard. Not that it couldn't happen ever, but Idk.

    • kristina [she/her]M
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      2 months ago

      I dunno, like people think furries are weird, but do they like, lose jobs, family, and stuff over it? I'm not super glued into furry discourse, just not my thing, so its an honest question

      • ashinadash [she/her]
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        2 months ago

        Uh they might if they started doing anything about it at work, or speaking about it ever? I guess most furries tend not to ever talk about it. To me it just feels like "on all levels except physical I am a wolf" is a further reach than going on /lgbt/ or something? The framing equivocating being a furry and being trans is probably wrong fwiw.

        I'm not superglued either so I'm mostly just talking shit basil-anxious-smile

      • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@lemmy.today
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        2 months ago

        Most of them are LGBT, so some probably already experienced those problems even without being furries. Like, idk if I know any allocishet furries. Also, many keep quiet about that kind of thing at work. I think some also keep the furry stuff secret from family but presumably are out about being gay.

        • kristina [she/her]M
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          2 months ago

          Yeah I get that but its not a furry thing at that point specifically

          I also don't tell my family I post on hexbear? Its like having a hobby right

          • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@lemmy.today
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            2 months ago

            I tell my family I post on the fediverse just like I mention most of my hobbies. Work, I wouldn't mention posting on here, but I would mention other hobbies.

            But also, being a furry seems like its much more a part of their identity than like a casual hobby and would probably be more akin to transitioning. Adopting a new name, look, etc, including when meeting up with other furry friends (I've never been to a furcon, so only judging based on what I've heard from others). Some still use their birthname for those kinds of things, but for others their birthname might as well be a deadname in the context where they're comfortable being themselves.

            Granted, many do hop from one fursona to another at some point or another, but gender fluid people exist too and many trans people go adopt new identities (like NB-> woman or woman->agender, etc).

            There's a couple furry streamers I know who seem to be eggs and basically use being a furry as a way to express themselves (one seems to have internalized transphobia issues and the other seems to be agender and may just not realize that's an option or may think "trans" implies having a gender).

    • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@lemmy.today
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      2 months ago

      I used to believe I fit into groups more stigmatized than furries partly as a way of denying my gender issues. Wasn't an intentional thing, but the weird intersection of certain coping mechanism I had developed and being ace but not knowing it led to an awful explanation for both issues. I don't think the level of stigma matters that much when you learn coping mechanism before you seriously consider things like identity.

      Also, the "I can't really do anything with this but hide it" make it easier to not critically examine it. Gender... There's a lot more to potentially do. And doing stuff can be scary.

      • ashinadash [she/her]
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        2 months ago

        Huh, I see thonk-trans figures my read of a social aspect would be many thousands of miles off. Very neat, I see.

        And yeah I did think last night, since other stuff tends to be things you hide by default maybe that helps, hmmmm. More to this than I had figured...