Remember when Obama saw the largest transfer of wealth away from black US citizens to the wealthy in the history of the United States?
Remember when he set the precedent that it us cool to assassinate US citizens in the open (as opposed to covertly) without trial?
Honestly I get being mad at "Obama's biggest controversy was the mustard"
Obama’s biggest controversy was the mustard
That's not what she said lol. Sorry as a neurodivergent person I get that this tweet might be hard to read possibly, but she's being sarcastic here. Maybe in poor taste, but it's a joke. She's well-aware of the shit Obama's done and isn't a fan of him.
She says that Obama was bad. Everyone understands she was being sarcastic. Since she was being sarcastic it means that she is trying to say that Obama wasn't bad (because that's how sarcasm works).
Since she was being sarcastic it means that she is trying to say that Obama wasn't bad (because that's how sarcasm works).
I mean… no? Sarcasm works in multiple ways lol. This is like a children’s picture book-level of understanding of sarcasm.
ok, this has gone over my head. can you explain what she meant? her "joke" reads like a retreading of stale
memes from /r/politics.This is absolutely just a regurgitation of people saying Obama's biggest scandals was the pants he wore. The joke doesn't have a punchline otherwise, barring missing context that you should have led with if there was a misunderstanding.
Isn't the punch line holding that belief? As in she was being sarcastic in saying that the sauce was the worst thing he did. It is an absolutely absurd belief to hold and thus humorous
I mean... sure? But that comment written by that particular person I can not see how it can be interpreted as a criticism against Obama. Unless it's a kind of 4chan humor, which is shameful to understand anyway.
Never argue with someone from Hexbear. They're all at least comfortable with being in a community overrun by tankie trolls.
But OP never made any argument, so they are fine. :comfy-cool: :tank: :troll:
I see it as mocking conservative news networks that acted like it was a controversy. Which you absolutely can do and still believe Obama was a bad president or whatever.
Are you so poorly educated that you think Obama was responsible for the crash that caused that transfer of wealth?
Are you just looking to dunk without actually absorbing what was actually said? If so, go back to reddit.
If you've actually misunderstood me, I never claimed Obama caused the recession. His policies after just massively looted the proletariat to benefit the bourgeoisie, and in particular looted black proletariat.
it's such an unfunny joke I had to read it three times to even understand what she was trying to say
or the genocide in Yemen, or his role as the deporter in chief, or that he engineered the largest transfer of wealth from the Black community to capital interests, or, or, or
Don't forget Boko Haram got their start of Libya's destruction too.
The current state of Russia-US relations can be pinned on Clinton and Obama as well
Absolutely wild that things escalated from a "reset" of relations with russia to the maidan coup in like 4 years, I honestly wish I knew more of what was going on there.
Some people are. This particular people has absolutely no excuse for such ignorance lol
I didn’t post it because her joke was funny lol
People who have a large following and magic emojis next to their name will keep using it because it gives them their validation. Twitter celebs are really in a sad state of existence
I mean. It definitely carries the implication that Obama has done very little wrong whether or not you intended it that way. Natalie's inability to own up to mistakes is either a serious character flaw or she thinks that the murderous actions he took were justified.
Since she basically stopped making content, I'm a little surprised she still has an audience. Like so many otherwise curiously influential and interesting people, she's doomed herself to drowning in the social media space when everyone would be better off (her most of all) if she just logged the fuck off.
She does streaming, I think.
I agree they all should log off instead.
sure, but I'm not convinced the people making the jokes care any more about civilian deaths, either.
Natalie's inability to own up to mistakes is either a serious character flaw or
I don't think that that is a flaw she has is in question at this point tbh
Studied Philosophy as a PhD. That's one of the biggest flaws a human could have.
It's not really hard is it? "Yeah people are right about this." and then growing from it. I don't think I've ever seen that from her, not a single time. Everyone is always wrong except her, it is always the internet's fault, and she is perfect and right about everything.
I have much more respect for people like Noah Samsen who has made mistakes with epic debatebros and just owned up to it like "Yep engaging with them was a mistake I shouldn't have done it and won't be in future". Just fucking learn from things ffs. Grow.
Its great that the Obama post got her dunked on by Ethereal Bisexual
Such an annoying reckless behavior to publicly Call Out a community you're supposedly part of like this. Every time someone does this, I get a clear mental image of a dog licking its own ass. Just shut up, having random slapfights and compulsive arguing are childish zoomer traits
Time for her to make another 4 hour video about how she was 1984'd into deleting a tweet.
that joke is so overused i don't even think the libs over at r/politics finds it funny anymore
I used to think it was funny just because it WAS absurd that Hannity (it was Hannity right?) made a big deal out of Obama ordering "fancy mustard" and therefor being unAmerican. I thought it was a good commentary on conservative media's weird tics. But once I noticed that libs were using it (and tan suit jokes) just as much to absolve Obama of having "real controversies" and not just making fun of Fox News, it lost its edge for me.
ETA: Also its really corny of Contra to engage in such an overused joke, beyond how lib she's being its also just really gauche.
Tan suit Dijon mustard
was amusing until I realized how much of politics is theater. It was just too blatant this time, but so much of American news is only slightly more serious than Dijon mustard.It may be gauche, but it is certainly not de gauche
Libs on /r/politics only make jokes about the Ork-shaped Slavic Brainpan and how many indictments Trump is currently under.
She's always been lib, sadly. I still love her content tho! But her political takes are def a little ehh
Yeah, I like have a soft spot for her because she helped show me that there was actually a left beyond voting for labour every now and again, and like she was the only trans rep young me really had, but like her politics are cringe af -
is way cooler imocontra's godawful takes on NB people / gender in general + her tendency to triple down when criticized really soured me on her content. it took all the fun out of the theater for me.
Yeah, I think I could stand her if she would just admit that she was wrong for once, about any of it
PT makes good videos, but she is closer to contra than can be coincidental. I mean, what are the odds of two trans women making leftist (at least at one point) political video essays in an overly theatrical style with old english letters as pen names.
Yeah they're friends and they used to help each other with the video production, I'm just saying that Abbie has wayyyy better politics than contra does (and her videos are better to - also she's a fellow trans person enduring the hellscape that is TERF island with me so that endears me to her)
They used to be freinds. They had some sort of falling out though. Although her politics are better than contra's
In other words - PT is Contrapoints, but it's good instead of whiny liberal asslicking.
Could you please correct the misgendering in your post? PT uses she/her pronouns exclusively.
I was just comparing them since they're decently close friends, they're in the same niche and go for basically the same audience, and do things in the same style, it seemed like a pretty natural comparison to me
I'm pretty sure the person you were responding to is also trans like me and presumably you
I think it's a joke - it's an absurd comparison so I don't think it's meant to be taken seriously
If I had a nickel for every time it happened I've have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
She went fully lib like two or three years ago and has not had even a trace of being a socialist since.
last I heard, he relapsed into Marianne Williamson electoralism. get well soon, Chairman Daou
Going? I think the least lib she ever got was making two videos about capitalism being bad and then concluding it with this statement:
You know maybe we should do something in the meantime. Uhh so I dunno, I guess vote Labour, tweet radically, try to eat more vegetables, uhh… Try not to be manipulated into waging war against other downtrodden people, and can we please not hand more power to the absolute worst dingbats our society has on offer.
can someone please explain why the word rule appears in titles so often
/r/196's thing is its a "rule" that you have to post something whenever you visit the sub. And most people post "rule" when they do so.
This comm is just reusing the tic.
Ok, so it looks like stormfront is a website that promotes white pride. It sounds like there might have been a subreddit at some point based on that stormfront image.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Stormfront
And /r/196 is a leftist meme posting subreddit that is trans friendly.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=r%2F196
I'm using non-reddit links because I don't want to direct traffic to reddit.
Can you help me find a source that shows, stormfront, a white pride website, influenced the 196 rule please? This seems like an important point to learn more about. I've been googling, but I haven't found any connection yet.
It's a long running hexbear joke to compare Reddit to stormfront given how racist and white it is
That's why the emoji booty used is called :reddit-logo :
The original sub was banned from Reddit for repeatedly saying a person who killed slave owners did nothing wrong, as some additional context
Who was the person who killed salve owners? I honestly do not know the history of the original sub.
I think you should be more judicious about who you're dunking on tbh. This person seems well intentioned enough.
ETA: I take this back.
This person seems well intentioned enough.
[edit]: I take this back.
Lol
i just felt like bein mean and i got lucky. but my guess was informed by the fact that they're a redditor.
196 was creepy and chaser-y about trans folks?
Also the
emoji is just making fun of how openly or (poorly) covertly white supremacist reddit is in general.196 was creepy and chaser-y about trans folks?
Not from what I've heard. edit:spacing
196 had extreme crossover with the vaush sub, I think mods too? Either way I got banned for shittalking NATO there over 3 years ago and haven't bothered to check in since.
"Trans friendly" is a weird way to say creepy chasers, the amount of overt sexualisation and objectification of trans people from non-trans people there is horrendous.
You're reading too hard into the reddit=stormfront thing. It's just a common leftist refrain off-reddit because 90% of the site is pro-nato white supremacy and nationalism even if a handful of communities might be slightly less bad.
most of the posts there make my skin crawl. im basically a boomer at this point in the trans community (10+ years transitioned), younger trans people really need to learn what fake allies look like. just because theyre nice/sexualize you doesnt mean they actually support you. i know when the world hates your guts the bar is low, but you need to make that bar high for your own good.
r/196 kinda gives me Vaush vibes in that way (and also in the radlibbiness ofc)
It's a joke to dunk on Reddit, it's become part of our parlance so we tend to drop it pretty casually. I can see how it comes across as accusatory here, but I think the user probably didn't mean anything by it.
That seems to be the case. Other people are indicating it was joke and not even one directed at on 196. It's certainly new to me anyway.
its because there used to be a stormfront subreddit on reddit for like 10 years or something before it got banned, and that was their logo.
And /r/196 is a leftist meme posting subreddit that is trans friendly.
Back when i still visited reddit, i got bullied pretty hard by them for pointing out that it's latently transphobic, assimilationist and toxic to shit on the way r/traaaaaaaa was inclusive of trans catgirl culture. They had an entire thread on how the memes on r/traaaaaaa were cringe and unfunny and it was full of latent bigottry like that. Made them sound like a bunch of chuds and truscums. r/196 also has a not insubstantial amount of chasers. Fetishizing us and talking about your favorite trans porn while dismissing the opinions of trans women as cringe isn't trans friendly, it is objectifying and shitty and r/196 can go fuck itself.
I only know about r/196 what I've read about it from other sources. You'll be happy to know we don't do that here. This is a trans friendly space.
heavy-handed moderation to keep it that way is a good idea. if someone engages in soft transphobia/chaser shit, warn and ban -- don't leave room for debates about how much trans positivity is too much.
I hope i can take your word for that, it's generally what i'd expect of a place called
zone, too. I'm just voicing my own experiences with the reddit sub.
I think stormfront the user, Stormfront the right wing website, and Stormfront the Apple store are all 3 seperate entities.
I think you got them mixed up. I hope you mixed them up and they aren't somehow connected anyway.
I honestly know very little about Stormfront, beyond what I've googled. I don't support white pride groups. I have seen people referencing it on Lemmy though.
it's a joke about reddit's tendency towards racism and other bigotry, not the literal stormfront website.
I won't contest that racism and bigotry existed on reddit. It definitely did. I also experienced and saw kindness and acceptance. Saying Reddit in its entirety is racist is really no different that saying everyone is racist. And not everyone and not everyone on reddit is racist.
it's about the platform and the majority membership, not a judgment of every community that exists there. there are quite obviously cool corners on reddit, but the platform as a whole defends bigotry as free speech, at an admin level.
yeah its a joke making fun of a large portion of reddit
you're giving real "all lives matter" vibes with this response
I won't contest that racism and bigotry existed on reddit. It definitely did. I also experienced and saw kindness and acceptance. Saying Reddit in its entirety is racist is really no different that saying everyone is racist. And not everyone and not everyone on reddit is racist.
reddit is full to the brim liberals and liberals are at best fascist enablers, at worst - especially when foreign politics are involved - they are fash-lite, consciously or otherwise
hence the stormfront joke
twitter is really good at making words and phrases meaningless through extreme hyperbole rule
Can I ask whats being made meaningless here? I hope you don't mean "war criminal". Because drone bombing a wedding is definitely a war crime.
Maybe you mean Contra's joke though idk lol
Natalie should know better. But also... the really nasty shit under Obama was heavily under-reported and only ever seemed to penetrate media in a select few circuits. Casually tossing off a "What even did Obama do that was so bad?" is almost forgivable if you're not a terminally online 30-year-old who makes hour long YouTube videos about politics, history, and culture.
Am I reading this wrong? I assume Natalie is making a joke about how people under report Obama's nasty shits
I think she's joking about how people over-report his trivial shit. But it can be read as blithely ignoring the monstrous crimes Obama did commit while in office, because it echoes a lot of the liberal apologia of the administration that amounted to "The worst thing Obama ever did was wear a tan suit".
While I don't think she has talked about Obama's war crimes or things adjacent to it, I find it hard to believe that she would be saying that seriously especially the both sides part. Tho her response to the criticism doesn't make it better.
You're reading it wrong, she's stating you can't make a moral equivalence between Obama and, say, Trump or something because supposedly the worst things obama did were silly.
Observation selection bias is an easy one the GOP likes to take advantage of. Eg: not testing for covid to show covid went down.
Also: drone strike civilian casualties.
Not testing for covid to show it went down is the current strategy of the Biden admin
Lol. Look at this galaxy brain equivicating there start of a pandemic with an endemic with vaccine.
I mean, obviously the covid hospital occupancy rates would be identical if the actual case rate was the same.
Oh wait...
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-hospitalizations
What's that? Less then 10k vs over 140k? Definitely the exact same situation! /s
Don't trip over yourself making excuses now
Hospital rates are down because we killed a lot of people and the rest aren't being recorded as covid.
I know people who very recently have caught and have had their bodies permanently damaged by this disease within the last few months, one of them being a family member who did everything right, so the whole "lol no big deal it's endemic now" shit is really fucking depressing, ngl. It kind of handwaves away a very real pain people are going through.
