Just Beanis is stuck in my head because some stupid fuck (with love) got it stuck in my brain this morning and now I’m binging Michael Jackson songs. I was too young when these allegations and since then I’ve read all kinds of things about his life, and I would like to know what you guys think is and isn’t real. I read bits about his troubled childhood, his humanity, and his apparent dark side. To me this man is a fucking titan of music.
Regarding the allegations I’ve read everything from him being a prolific pedophile to being a deeply caring and misunderstood man who wanted to help kids. Was this just a homophobic, racist hitjob?
What do you guys think?
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how you can manage to not get an indictment from a grand jury is beyond me
uhhhh he's Michael Jackson?
From what I gather, it’s highly likely he was molesting kids at neverland, but that the kids of the people who brought the lawsuits against Jackson weren’t among those molested. They were being opportunistic and figured the general evidence would be enough to establish their kids were victims. Probably why the lawsuits failed.
While I’m certainly not absolving Jackson of personal responsibility, it also seems likely that this behavior was a result of his abusive and exploited childhood.
Like you said, the more prolific cases seem to be opportunistic, but having a bunch of kids unrelated to you over at your house is indicative of something.
An opportunistic person could similarly turn a blind eye to what this super rich dude is doing with their kids to reap personal dividends and then decide to cash in again with a maybe genuine lawsuit or at least if their complicity was in play it would be.
Was MJ a creep? yes. Was he a pedo? I doubt it.
Yes he had abnormal relationships with children but I'm convinced that it was him trying to come to grips with his own fucked up childhood. He never got to be a kid so when he finally realized he was free to do whatever he wanted he decided to hang out with children to try to tap into their perspective and vicariously experience childhood.
Probably want to CW this thread.
His lack of boundaries with kids has few innocent explanations.
I tend to think that "where there's smoke, there's fire", and in his case there was a shit-ton of smoke.
I look at it also in terms of what seems more logical and realistic:
That he was 100% innocent the entire time and the victim of some grand conspiracy to sully his name and get his money, across multiple different people
or
He molested, at absolute minimum, 1 kid
Or it's all bullshit for profit. Here is a shit ton of evidence for his innocence: https://themichaeljacksonallegationsblog.wordpress.com
I don't know for sure if he was actually abusing children or if he was just creepy with them, but he was creepy with them for sure. Ultimately, my attitude towards the matter is that we'll likely never know with certainty, but I'm fine enjoying his music because he is dead, and my listenership can't be used to empower him to hurt anybody.
I think I read some of the testimonies from the court psychologists (publicly available), though my memory is fuzzy on it. The general consensus seemed to be that he didn't have any interest in CSA and was genuinely trying to relive his childhood but without the exploitation and abuse he encountered.
Assuming that's true and accurate (and with his level of financial and cultural power that's a huge assumption), his behavior was still highly inappropriate and boundary-crossing. A rational person would also ask themselves if he would be reasonably capable of determining what an environment free of abuse and exploitation would even look like without years of therapy and/or introspection.
https://themichaeljacksonallegationsblog.wordpress.com/
There is zero evidence of his guilt and a ton of evidence why these allegations were made for profit. Both by the accusers and the media. It was basically a cottage industry.
The FBI raided his house multiple times and found zero evidence of child porn, only adult porn. He never slept in a bed with the kids.
During his trial they would interview witnesses with allegations, then when the defense showed that these witnesses were lying or could disprove them, the press was already gone. Ran out to telegraph the latest juicy tidbit. And then they acted surprised when he was judged innocent.
Reading that blog after all those years having those false allegations and rumors in my head was really shocking. He was innocent and cruelly persecuted because he was a weirdo.
PS: The problem that you can also see in this thread is that for years we got these news bits are rumours drip fed through the mainstream press. Nothing was ever substantiated and no refutation by MJ was ever printed. It was entirely for profit.
If you ever wonder how the MAGAts could ever go so crazy, read the above blog and realize: We've all been had at one point or another. You cannot make good decisions when you're constantly inundated with lies.
Because this is a forum to discuss stuff. Though it’s better suited for c/music.
There was a good thread about this on here a while ago, I can't remember who posted it, but it was interesting.
FBI didn't find shit, go look at their logs of his entire estate/phone/etc
It was fake and pushed by the MSM outlets funded by Diddy/friends
Edit: I'll throw in a good video on the topic
https://x.com/Cancelcloco/status/1764774724767469734
Yes, 100%
MJ wasn't a pedo, that's exactly why he was targeted; for denying the invites.
Skinhead, dead head, everybody gone mad
Situation, aggravation, everybody, allegation
In the suit, on the news, everybody, dog food
Bang, bang, shot dead, everybody's gone mad
All I wanna say is that
They don't really care about us
Are you saying he declined going to Combs's pedo parties and that's why he was targeted by Combs?
This is all new to me. Do you have any info on this?
I trust this dude for his extensive due diligence for sources. (CW: Libertarianism if you check out his other tweets)
https://x.com/Cancelcloco/status/1764774724767469734
Sean Combs is literally the Quan Chi of Hollywood. 96% of all fuckery and misery for the last 30 years can eventually somehow be walked back to him.
Let's say it's all true.
Is it okay to like Thriller?
I need to know. I need to know I like communism stuff.
