• gueybana [any]
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    4 months ago

    Call me selfabsorbed but I genuinely hate when i don’t even get an acknowledgement from people I hold the door for. I don’t want you to smile or say thank you or look me in the eyes but jist make some sort of indication that you know this door didn’t fucking magically pry itself open you twat.

    It happens almost half the time, and I literally hold the door for everyone and can’t help not doing it. Every time I wish i could go back in time and slam it in their face, I’m not your personal bellboy

    I know this is sn overreaction sorry

      • gueybana [any]
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        4 months ago

        I think this is a poor way to frame things.

        • DJDarren@thelemmy.club
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          4 months ago

          It’s a realistic way to frame things.

          Do you do nice things for the reward or just to be nice? If it’s the latter, then the other person’s reaction shouldn’t matter. Letting it irritate you wastes your own energy for no purpose, and the other person will never know about it, you’ll just continue to seethe, which will be added to the next time it happens.

          That said, I do understand your frustration.

          • gueybana [any]
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            4 months ago

            If you understand my frustration then you can also understand that people do things just to be nice but are well within their right to feel disappointed by people who won’t acknowledge their gesture, who almost seem to think such a gesture is meaningless or furthermore entitled to it.

            I’ll keep doing nice things, and I’ll keep seething when people are rude in turn when I’m doing nice things, don’t put the moral failure on me.

            • DJDarren@thelemmy.club
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              4 months ago

              I don’t believe I’m putting a moral failing anywhere, but I’m sorry that what I said made you feel that way.

              The point I’m making is that none of us can control how others behave, and getting angry at them only serves to make us bitter. By disengaging our own feelings from this act, we can lead more content lives, and that’s helpful for our own mental health.

          • newmou [he/him]
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            4 months ago

            Quit being over analytical nerds. It’s a common courtesy to acknowledge someone doing something nice for you, and it’s totally normal to feel disappointed when that breaks down

              • newmou [he/him]
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                4 months ago

                “Entertaining violence”? Can you go back to Reddit please

                • JayTwo [any]
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                  4 months ago

                  I would but they killed the Chapo sub

                  Which is why I'm here

                  • gueybana [any]
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                    4 months ago

                    No doubt you’re a redditor. Let me guess, you’re probably one of those people who just wished to ‘be left alone’ by everyone when they’re just being polite to you and exercising the basic norms of the social contract? .

                • JayTwo [any]
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                  4 months ago

                  Ok fine let's take it as close the door in front of their face, and not literally smack them in the face with the door.

                  It's still eyebrow raising imo to get that worked up.

                  • gueybana [any]
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                    4 months ago

                    Ok fine let's take it as close the door in front of their face

                    If not acknowledging someone holding the door for you is not a big deal why should closing the door be?

          • gueybana [any]
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            4 months ago

            I take it you don’t acknowledge people doing polite things for you because you don’t owe them anything? Do you not appreciate when someone’s polite to you?

            • JayTwo [any]
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              4 months ago

              Are you being polite to actually help?
              Or because you want a head pat?

              From my upbringing I've learned to stay far away from the latter.

              Editing to add context: When it comes to unhoused outreach the people in it for acknowledgement often become liabilities.

              • gueybana [any]
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                4 months ago

                I guess it’s some sort of moral hurdle someone needs to pass when they do nice things for you and you don’t acknowledge them.

                • JayTwo [any]
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                  4 months ago

                  I personally do acknowledge them.

                  I just think that you shouldn't do it for the acknowledgement.

    • princeofsin [he/him]
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      4 months ago

      You are right and basic acknowledgement of you helping someone should be normal and good

    • Edamamebean [she/her]
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      4 months ago

      I don't disagree but if you don't want people to smile or say thank you or look you in the eyes what do you want them to do? Grunt of acknowledgement?

      • gueybana [any]
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        4 months ago

        Grunt of acknowledgement?

        That’s good enough.

        Or a handjob, at the very least.

        • Edamamebean [she/her]
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          4 months ago

          Ok good cause the only other thing I could think of is that strange nod men always talk about which I can't do as a woman

            • JayTwo [any]
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              4 months ago

              They don't know how to guy nod.
              Just regular nod.

              Me as an NB I am a master of both.

              Edit: Or maybe I'm a master of neither.

              Either way I do both nods with the same level of skill

              *proceeds to try to nod but moves my entire body instead in a strange bowing movement*

            • Edamamebean [she/her]
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              4 months ago

              No but many men I've talked to claim there is some sort of man nod that they do at other men they see even if they're sttangers.

    • nothx [he/him]
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      4 months ago

      It used to make me irrationally angry as well, but at some point in the past few years I’ve tried to stop letting things that happen in public get to me. My expectations are so low and the effort I put out anymore is even lower. When I’m out and about in public I try my best to keep to myself and ignore anything that isn’t gonna directly affect me.

      Maybe this is a selfish way to go about it, but it is what it is. Being courteous doesn’t really benefit me in public most of the time. I’m not an outright dick to total strangers, I just don’t try very hard to be overly friendly.

    • anarchoilluminati [comrade/them]
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      4 months ago

      I actually just replied to another comment about this, but I totally agree!!

      Americans are so fucking rude. I hold open doors and hardly ever a damn thank you, much less getting doors held open for me. I usually just loudly say "You're welcome!" but they just ignore that too. Makes me never want to hold doors open to strangers again, but the spirit of my grandmother would be disappointed in me and I just can't help it at this point.

    • iheartneopets@lemm.ee
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      4 months ago

      I mean, why expect people to acknowledge something that they didn't request or need? Like, if they're holding an armfull of stuff, you help them with the door, and they don't acknowledge your help then yeah, you have a case. However, if they're just minding their business and you randomly open the door for them, then I think you're kinda being unreasonable to expect some kind of appreciation from someone when you don't know what their situation is.

      Like, do you really expect some kind of report card on how good a boy/girl you were for holding open a door for some rando who might, for all you know, have a family member in the hospital, or be struggling to afford their bills, etc etc. If so, that lowkey makes you the Nice Guy asshole, expecting extra emotional labor from that person who really didn't ask for or even want that interaction with you.

      • gueybana [any]
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        4 months ago

        Obviously, people are allowed to be preoccuppied with serious personal problems and it’s not fair to blow something like this out of proportion but at the same time,

        Like, do you really expect some kind of report card on how good a boy/girl you were for holding open a door for some rando who might, for all you know, have a family member in the hospital, or be struggling to afford their bills, etc etc. If so, that lowkey makes you the Nice Guy asshole, expecting extra emotional labor from that person who really didn't ask for or even want that interaction with you.

        Nah, I’m not getting into this nice guy debate about emotional labor, way too much abstraction over unproblematic common courtesy. I never said I was some paragon of virtue, I’m just a regular dude practicing social norms I’ve been taught and maybe trying to make both our days just a little bit better.

        • iheartneopets@lemm.ee
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          4 months ago

          I mean, whether or not you wanna get into/acknowledge it is your choice, but that doesn't change the fact that that's what people feel when they don't feel up to giving you feedback for doing something they didn't ask for 🤷🏻‍♀️

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        4 months ago

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    • mar_k [he/him]
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      4 months ago

      when i was in high school i had severe anxiety from repressed, untreated ADHD (which sometimes made it hard for me to control my tone of voice) that would make me overthink the fuck out of scenarios like this. my mind would race with how i should enunciate "thanks" the right way and wondering if my voice will seem shaky or nervous, and by the time i was ready it'd be too late lmao

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        4 months ago

        I go big nowadays. They did a nice thing and I'm gonna let em damn well know I appreciate it. Full "thank you very much"

    • Dolores [love/loves]
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      4 months ago

      i get kind of flustered when people are holding doors and there's traffic going both ways i don't know who should go first so i'll cut through fast to remove myself, it probably seems dickish but i'm just trying to get out of the way

    • CommunistBear [he/him]
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      4 months ago

      Maybe it's a regional thing? Here in the Midwest, I always get an acknowledgement and a thank you for common courtesies like that