• miz [any, any]
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      22 days ago

      there's a shop of her face onto Trump that was posted on hexbear right after the Vice President Trump comment but I have never been able to find it again

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    22 days ago

    Is she going to build the wall on top of the existing wall? Behind it? below it?!?!

    • booty [he/him]
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      22 days ago

      They're just gonna keep building walls till we're all walled off in Canada and the former US is but a series of walls

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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      22 days ago

      Don't be silly

      She'll build the new 'border crossing reduction superstructure' in front of the old 'wall'. That way, we can admire how it is Democrat approved, built with ethically sourced materials, funded by small donors only, constructed by local, highly graded contractors, and designed to be aesthetically pleasing

  • Snackuleata [any]
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    22 days ago

    I guess it was only un-American to get Mexico to pay for it. If the American taxpayers pay for it it's a-OK apparently.

  • RION [she/her]
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    22 days ago

    "☝️🤓 um akshually she's saying she'd sign the ♥️✨ bipartisan border bill™✨♥️, which is merely extending the timeline to use funds already appropriated for the wall!"

    The purpose of a system is what it does fuckheads!!!

    Don't act like your hands are tied into supporting border apartheid because of a bill that never even got through congress. If Kamala's going to bratboss her way into the presidency and take downballot Dems into congress alongside her can't you just make a better bill that doesn't do this shit?

  • Coca_Cola_but_Commie [he/him]
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    22 days ago

    It's mind-boggling to me how fake the border is. One of the central political footballs of US domestic politics for... I don't even know how long. As long as I've been alive. All the sweat, all the ink spilled, the dems constantly tacking rightwards on the issue, the untold millions of people immiserated, news cycles yammering about it endlessly. And for what? Just naked racism? Who does a "strong border" benefit, exactly? What does it even mean? Some other political bullshit, like being "Tough on Crime" or the "War on Drugs" I can see the twisted logic where you could convince regular Americans that those things were good for them. The only cogent logic I've ever heard about the border is that, apparently, back when Labor was strong they wanted strict controls on the border and immigration because they feared employers would replace them with slaves. Not that I agree with that, but I can see a logic at work there.

    I suppose I could see where somebody who doesn't know that cartels aren't real could buy that the intersection of the war on drugs and the southern border represents some legitimate threat to their safety. But I'm pretty sure I read once that most drugs come in on boats and planes and commercial trucks (and is being done so at the behest of state apparatuses i.e. CIA, cops, DEA, etc.).

    I could see where, if you gave a shit about illegal border crossers and lived in a border state then that would be a humanitarian crisis, but that's never what the news or the politicos are talking about when they talk about the border.

    It's like in America we talk in a nonsense language about made up bullshit that then translates into the mass deprivation of huge swathes of humanity. Of course most of the common political talking points in this country are bullshit, but the border in particular seems almost entirely abstract in terms of the rhetoric surrounding it.

    • freagle@lemmygrad.ml
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      22 days ago

      The reason is because the contradictions of USA imperialism in South America actually threaten to create material conditions that undo America as mass displacement pushes people directly impacted by US foreign policy into the domestic sphere. The wall, in essence, is a necessary component of the Monroe Doctrine in its advanced stages.

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    22 days ago

    It’s frustrating how many libs act like voting Kamala will mean less deportations. This is a case where both candidates are the same.