...Other than being less prepared to do what I need to to survive if I'm stranded in the wilderness?

I'm from America. Our wet markets(we call ours "farmers markets" as if it's any different) have no animals meant for food. Here I experience all animal products prepackaged in corporate markets. Meat pre butchered in styrofoam trays, wrapped with plastic. The killing process is hidden from customers, done many miles away from the market.

There's two instances I've seen animals for eating before they were consumed. In Hawaii at a luau where they showed the pig to everyone before they killed and cooked it. And abroad in a market where someone was slitting chicken's throats.

I am committed to continuing to eat meat. I think it's kind of shitty of me to not be mindful of the process of how animals end up on my plate. I also want to experience wet markets with less disgust of the act of animals being killed. I think it's unfair of me to judge others for killing for food. I mentally isolate the butcher's role from the rest society. Plus, there are many native peoples for who the process of killing animals is a part of their culture.

  • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]
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    2 months ago

    I am committed to continuing to eat meat.

    Why, though...? Like I still eat meat, that's why I'm commenting on this post, but I'm not "committed" to continuing — I want to quit, I just situationally feel like I'm unable to.

    There are many native peoples for who the process of kill animals is a part of their culture.

    Hey tell the women's advocates to stand down, I just found out that many native peoples have female genital mutilation as a part of their culture (this means it is immune from criticism)

    • HexaSnoot [none/use name]
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      2 months ago

      I have other priorities higher than a completely plant based diet change. I might do it one day, for now I've just reduced my meat consumption. And I didn't say you can't criticize it.

      • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]
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        2 months ago

        In which case, why mention native peoples at all? For that matter why use the phrasing of "commitment to continuing" when you really mean "might quit if given the opportunity" but y'know that's semantics anyways.

        • AmericaDelendaEst [comrade/them]
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          2 months ago

          I think they were trying to say that they want to experience butchering but more from the perspective of those cultures where it is ritualized and done in as respectful a way possible as opposed to "guy whacking off chicken heads in a market stall" but idk maybe i misread it

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      2 months ago

      It's also not part of OP's culture or there would be no need to phrase it that way.

  • micnd90 [he/him,any]
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    2 months ago

    Congratulations, you have entered the bargaining stage

    Only 2 more stages to go to acceptance and become vegan

  • hypercracker
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    2 months ago

    People in the US do not legally have the ability to see inside slaughterhouses, and indeed there are laws on the books criminalizing taking recordings of the interior (so-called ag-gag laws) because of how fucking horrifying it is. If you just want to see some farmer kill an individual artisanal hand-fed massaged-daily cow or something that is definitely possible but is not how 99.99% of the meat in this country is produced and every person I’ve met who claims to only eat meat raised that way is full of it.

  • culpritus [any]
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    2 months ago

    Being desensitized to the killing of helpless animals is generally considered a psychological red flag. I think this is why the ritualization of the process is pretty common in many cultures. It creates a time and place where this is acceptable behavior, and outside of those special circumstances it's not viewed as being so acceptable. Have you considered going on a hunt with some experienced folks that hunt for food purposes? It something I had exposure to when I was younger. Did you ever dissect an animal in biology?

    Nowadays I'm much more of a naturalist, but there's a similar skill set of being stealthy and maintaining awareness to movement, etc. I just wonder why you feel compelled to go down this rabbit hole. The animal flesh industry is pretty fucking vile from what I understand of it. I do my best to avoid eating meat, mostly for personal health, but there's tons of environmental and political reasons to do so as well. Death is death, and witnessing the death of a beloved animal is much more philosophically impactful in my opinion than seeing 'livestock' being killed and butchered.

  • heartheartbreak [fae/faer]
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    2 months ago

    Super loaded question but first i would suggest following the empathic response you have to unnecessary violence to stop eating meat.

    If you want to push down your empathic response for the animals youre eating the only answer is that you have to desensitize yourself to seeing it. The downside is that you do enter a new level of commodity fetish about the stuff you eat, but its ultimately your choice.

  • TheLastHero [none/use name]
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    2 months ago

    maybe go sign up to fight in a war somewhere? Sufficiently traumatic combat conditions may do the trick. I hear Ukraine desperately needs some more suckers to fill their trenches these days, and don't worry about training or understanding the language or anything like that. just make sure to always volunteer whenever they ask for them and you'll be all good bud.