https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/sep/25/netflix-liu-cixin-adaptation-uighur-comments-the-three-body-problem

this is definitely the most important thing happening.

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    D&D from Game of Thrones were signed on to make it.

    I'd rather see the project aborted than see their take on the China.

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      hahahaha, I wasn't planning on watching it in any case but yeah, hopefully it's never made

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      They are talented people

      That really started to phone it in

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        No they're not, they're really fucking stupid. Listen to an interview with them, they think they are geniuses. All of the main actors hated them.

        • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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          These books are finished. Problem is the fact they will have to deal with a story involving China which I don't trust them with.

        • Magjee [any]
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          Yea, it also shows why the Aegon story was so necessary

          George really works through the story

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      Netflix killing the project will almost certainly result in a Chinese production house picking it up.

      After Wandering Earth, I have a lot of faith that they'll do it right.

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    In a letter to Netflix, the senators said they had “significant concerns with Netflix’s decision to do business with an individual who is parroting dangerous CCP propaganda”.

    Said dangerous CCP propaganda:

    “Would you rather that they be hacking away at bodies at train stations and schools in terrorist attacks? If anything, the government is helping their economy and trying to lift them out of poverty,” Liu said, adding: “If you were to loosen up the country a bit, the consequences would be terrifying.”

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      Would you rather that they be hacking away at bodies at train stations and schools in terrorist attacks? If anything, the government is helping their economy and trying to lift them out of poverty,” Liu said, adding: “If you were to loosen up the country a bit, the consequences would be terrifying.

      As long as it happened in China, they would most definitively like that, yes.

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      to them muslims are good if they bomb official US enemies and bad if they do literally anything else

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            wait, did requiring engravings of knives purchased in these areas start before or after the fundamentalist sectarianism?

            Hui Muslims also do not completely escape this terrifying inculcation. Which isn't to say it's some inherent feature of Islam, obviously not if these groups have co-existed for so long, but we can't ignore the extent to which a recent narrative of "cultural genocide" gets slathered on these stories.

            Hui Muslims are socio-linguistically & historically of Chinese descent. And they are also known to have Salafist & extreme sectarian groups moving in and out of these areas in Xinjiang. Hui muslims have been implicated in Heroin rings & moving those drugs to those Uyghur areas.

            To what extent is Daesh and its outgrowths an encouragement for these groups elsewhere & why was the reporter A. Vltchek found dead under suspicious circumstances in Turkey?

            Is this global nexus of oil money & militant funding & state surveillance not just a way to encircle China from Central Asia?

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                education & economic development are not law enforcement issues in the same way as the United States' War on Drugs & racist for-profit prison industry.

                you can parse the lasting social benefits & fundamental uplifting aim of one over the other, i am sure of this.

                and you're right from one perspective about Turkey, I think, but this topic just gets more interesting & complex the less we accept the "china bad" line.

                https://www.sbs.com.au/news/china-releases-video-of-uighur-musician-disputing-reported-death

                the way news & sensationalism & outright lies blend so perfectly into jingoism can't be ignored. none of us are immune to propaganda, but I think we can comb through most of these claims about PRC and find very little real or irrefutable evidence.

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      Yeah he definitely could have worded it better. That being said, it seems to me the author's point wasn't to label all Uyghurs being detained as terrorists but to point out that Xinjiang actually did have a serious terrorism problem. The "hacking away at bodies at train stations" references events that have actually happened: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-xinjiang-blast-idUSBREA3T0HX20140430

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          How is that Islamophobic? He didn't even say "Muslim" or "Islam". And there have literally been terrorist attacks in China carried out by the separatist groups including ones with knives. That's what people don't get. This isn't America's War on Terror, where there was no actual threat in the United States and which the US didn't solve at all in the Middle East. There is actual domestic terrorism in China. This would be more akin to white supremacist attacks in the US and realizing that they are carried out by a certain group of disaffected people, and providing that demographic job opportunities.

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            omg some uyghurs are using knives? well that certainly justifies mass violence against an ethnic and religious minority.

            (also, smiling at the though of McNamara explaining to American dissenters that Americans were bringing "domestic job opportunities" to the North Vietnamese )

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              China is not committing "mass violence against an ethnic and religions minority". You're just regurgitating propaganda from blatantly dubious sources now.

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                ah yes, the violence is only limited to "separatist groups" who have it coming.

                imperialism with a chinese face.

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                  Again, what 'violence'?

                  Imperialism

                  When you definitively know what words mean.

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                  The people who have to go to the vocational schools are people who participated in separatist activities, up to and including actual terrorism. Western media has created a lie (like they often do) that every Uighur in Xinjiang is now in a concentration camp (lol). Completely baseless and incomprehensible.

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              mass violence against an ethnic and religious minority

              Where?

              Begone, lib.

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                  except Vietnam is not even close to US sphere of influence & Xinjiang is literally within PRC sovereign territory

                  PRC recognizes all of these groups with special designation. You can parrot jingoist disinformation about a situation you've no personal experience with, or you can admit & attend specifically to the terrible ways the West (North & South America especially) treat indigenous there. Canada & US have never given these groups outreach or uplift & leave them to flounder in marginal scrubland

                  Yet you appear to live in this fantasy where Islamic fundamentalism & zealotry are only conceivable threats to “Western society”…

                  You think PRC deserves terrorist attacks, & that the global war on terror & gitmo & extrajudicial rendition by America are in this other category.

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    Man, the Guardian are really smashing that anti-china narrative recently. Not sure what it's like in other parts of the world, but guardian Aus has an entire 'Fight For Hong Kong' section as well as a million anti China think pieces a day.