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On this mega I shall take the opportunity to rant about one of my favorite things: the Webnovel UNJUST DEPTHS!
Do you love transgenders?
Do you love communism?
Do you love queer romance?
Do you love killing fascists in a giant fucking mech?
Would a plotline with all of these things happening in a underwater retro-futuristic gundam setting intrigue you?
Especially if its actually really well written with good characters, rich worldbuilding, and a marxist leninist transfem author?
All of the answers should be: YES I DO or else I WILL BAN YOU
Since you obviously love all of those things then Unjust Depths is perfect for YOU yes YOU! It is DESTINY
The Imbrian Ocean is at a time of severe instability. The monarch of the vast Empire that spans its unjust depths (:3) is sick and nearing death, every territory of the ocean now vying to carve their own Destiny out of the chaos. From the Volk fascists 
, Zionists 
(they literally will not die why are they still here oh my god), The 'Anarchists' (social chauvanists) 
in Bosporus, and the monarchs 
of each vast noble domain, each vies for power and prestige no matter who they crush underfoot, but it would be a pretty depressing story without a bright light in the dark.
On the edge of the Empire sits the glorious Union! The (Soviet) Union 
is a socialist federation of three states (and one anarchist mountain 
)that were formerly slave colonies under the Imbrian Empire until they broke away in a fierce liberation war. They have spent the last 20 years since then building themselves up. Whether they be Human 
, Shimmi 
(Catgirls who usually follow a religion closely related to modern Islam), and Kattaran 
(a hybrid humanoid species with characteristics of sea life ranging from sharks to cuttlefish)building socialism side by side.
First lead under the revolutionary leader Dashka Kansal, then the Idealist Ahwalia who lead the country to near ruin in pursuit of building a utopia on pillars of sand, then under the scientific socialist 
leadership of the Grand Marshall of the Union, Bhavani Jayanskar (I love Jayanskar so much shes basically as if Stalin, Lenin, and Zhukov were rolled into the same person but was a black lesbian badass who wore the uniform REALLY WELL)(she aint the main character at all tho shes only in very few scenes i just love her so much). Under Jayanskar, the Union has been growing their economy to both eliminate hunger and give everyone a home 
, but also growing their military capabilities for the inevitable return of the Empire. The Union is alone, but with the people by its side nothing, not even Destiny, can snuff out true freedoms light. 
As war wages between the Empire and Republic (basically underwater USA) once more over the lands between them, the facade begins to finally crack...
And a border conflict between the Empire and Union escalate, and the dreaded reconquest begins.
Amidst this turmoil, lives our main characters (yes there are multiple and all of them are lovely). Each of whom I personally love dearly, and are very well characterized. Many are soldiers of the Union, some are scientists, some are divers (mech pilots), some are lost strands finding new meaning after joining this band of Brigands
All are Communists 
All serve the Union 
All would gladly give their lives to defending socialism 
but even they would have little inkling of the adventure set in store for them as the lands beneath the waves erupt in fire, fury, and revolt
Can these transgender badasses kick fascist ass?
Can they kiss? (oh my god please kiss ISTG THERE IS SO MUCH SHIPPING AHHHH ITS GLORIOUS)
FIND OUT HERE: https://unjustdepths.com/
please do or else I will pout incessantly
just try it pleeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase i need to talk to someone about it after Cromalin went AFK
(I miss her, she was a real one)
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I feel that first part, for sure.
Hmm, thinking about it more, I'm not sure I'm here yet. Maybe check in in a week, lol.
Nice, I mean I can only really speak for myself, honestly, but if you are happy with gendered language, I don't think there's anything wrong with just enjoying it, if you can. I don't have a real theoretical basis for that, just think you should enjoy the things you like.
So, i probably could have phrased my statement better, and like yes i agree with you, but also within the broader context of society, the way language shapes us and our thoughts, i really do think the world would be better with a neutral-by-default language custom. Like, we dont have to abolish gendered language ig, just, we shouldnt apply it by default. Idk, my initial statement was a little dramatic i guess, and those feelings are fuelled by my not wanting to be in that box of womanhood. Like, I want to be in the area of womanhood, but not have walls around it, and the way gendered language is used in modern english often feels like walls. Idk how to describe it its not a well thought out thing, sorry.
Ill try to remember lol
I think I follow for the most part, actually?
I think you're saying here that the binary is reinforced by our speech,
and that it feels constricting.
Yeah, I was doing a work thing yesterday for localization and I noticed that Google Translate now has "masculine" and "feminine" options for nouns. I'm at least glad English doesn't have that, but I kind of agree with a neutral-first language.
Maybe this is a bit of an aside, but when I've appreciated gendered language in the past, there's definitely been an element that was me enjoying it because people saw me as the gender I identified as. I've never told anyone my pronouns before this site. What was I feeling? Was I enjoying the feeling of passing privilege? That's kind of a scary thought... I'm still trying to figure this out too, might be time for me to sleep on it. Have a good night!
You sleep well, hope the gender theory faerie visits and quells any unrest with deeper understanding ^^
I think this is part of what happens for me, its confirmation that they see me as a woman, which simultaneously makes me happy and unhappy, because im a woman but also not; im a woman but im also woman adjacent, and it feels like that confirmation is affirming my woman-ness while also negating/minimizing/ignoring/suppressing my adjacent-to-womanness.
To put it another way, i do woman, and i do woman adjacent, and i do agender/wtf-is-gender-go-away. And theres no way to wrap all of those up in a single pronoun, in a single gendered verb conjugation, in a single word inflection. Inherrently one will be elevated above the others, or the others will be negated.
Hmmm i have thinking and reflecting to do I think...
I mean, i cant tell you what you were feeling, but theres a difference between passing privilidge and respect+acceptance of who you are/what you perform. Idk, its late and im kinda exhausted, i think thisll have to wait until tomorrow.
well put! I follow that. Makes sense.
100%!! I feel you about "trying to wrap it up into a single pronoun or word inflection"
same, I feel like I'm shifting every day that I think about this now, enby feels right to me right now, but I've thought about pronouns, I think I'll keep she/her for the time being. To cis people, it'll always be she/her. To people that get it? I'm not sure.
Haha, sorry, those were meant to be rhetorical. But yeah, I like this distinction too. Good point.
Omg 100% this, like theres such a huge difference in how Im comfortable with people referring to me between people who have considered gender and have a similar viewpoint as me, and those who dont. Its not even a cis/trans divide, its just like what framework do you understand gender through i guess? But even for the people that do, idk what words to use to describe myself. Like, they/them is fine but not right, if that makes sense. Idk, if there was something that reflected the absurdity and arbitrarity of gender within our culture, that would be great, but also I move around (we talked about this further up i think?) a bit so not all the time, and i love being femme (id present hyperfemme all the time if it wasnt so much work tbh) idk its just confusing.
I've had a very similar thought in the past couple of days, if not exact.
Yeah it is. I think there's kind of a push/pull with society, as we need to live inside this binary in some fashion. I wonder how much of an effect this has on us.