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  • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]
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    2 months ago

    grillman "Starship Troopers is my ideal Sci-Fi movie!"

    'Yeah, it's a pretty incredible satire of fascist art and culture'

    grill-broke "It's WHAT?!"

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      • VILenin [he/him]
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        Just last week at the airport I saw some USMC jackboot thug with a “FRONT TOWARDS ENEMY KILL BAD GUYS” shirt on. All I can say is anyone other than a white guy would’ve been manhandled and dragged into a dark room for a 36 hour interrogation.

        Sure is very healthy for society in general to allow these kinds of people to just roam around outside with the rest of us.

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      soypoint-1 "It's not that deep bro"
      debord-tired "I agree. This is surface level, yet you still struggle with it"

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    Oh yeah, The Boys definitely didn't have any political ideology for the first 3 seasonsdean-smile

    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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      What do you mean the author grew up during the Troubles in Ireland and has an intense disdain for religion, conservatism, and imperialism? Why can't he just be non-political?

  • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 months ago

    Weird how every single good show seems to have some kind of "political" message in it that CHUDs always hate. Funny that. Almost like good art requires empathy for other human beings and an ability and desire to see things from their perspective.

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      • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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        It's funny whenever a CHUD show comes out, because they are always terrible, and the CHUDs always hate them, usually because they aren't Chuddy enough.

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          • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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            Nah, I'm more a fan of the other CHUD show, the one with the gay power couple with the woodworking guy and the hipster guy.

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              • heggs_bayer [none/use name]
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                It's not even buttrock. It's post 9/11 style country garbage. That genre is bad enough as it is, but having it be treat printed makes it even worse.

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        I'm pretty sure that's just Reacher or Yellowstone and I don't ever see them talk about it because it's just obvious boomer shit

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  • chillbo_baggins [he/him]
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    Ironic they'd use a Homelander meme to represent this thought, don't they know he's a bad guy?

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      • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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        In season 1 he already murders an entire plane full of people because he feels like it

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  • Redcuban1959 [any]
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    Btw, really weird how Elon has all these alt accounts where he posts his "opinions" and just comments bellow like, one or two words, usually something like "Cute, concerning, etc...". I think he does that because if he posts something that his fans/supporters dislike he can say it wasn't he that posted. Really strange behavior even for a guy that is rich and neurodivergent, I guess the fact he uses drugs doesn't help his sanity one bit.

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    Considering women, lgbt existing is political for these guys......

  • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    Sort of off-topic, but could someone eli5 why a lot of media, particularly some in Hollywood seems to skew culturally leftward?

    Is it porky doing some self-depreciating humor? Because why wouldn’t these c-suite douchebags want to make more money by appealing to chuds, who make up the bulk of the consumer market and reinforces the idea that capitalism, racism, and all the unfairness in the world is justified? Seems odd for a network to be ok with media where they’re the villains.

    • MayoPete [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 months ago

      Capitalist Realism by Mark Fischer has a good explanation for why this happens.

      In short, it's ok to have some media criticism of Capitalism to diffuse any actual organizing against the system. Tabling is hard, but watching a greedy person get their just desserts is easier. Feels good without having to do anything!

    • ashinadash [she/her]
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      2 months ago

      joyce-messier All media critical of capitalism will eventually be subsumed by capitalism and sold back, capitalism's great power is to absorb critique of itself, etc etc

      • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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        That’s partially what I have assumed.

        Look at older Pixar, Bug’s Life and Wall-e have some pretty dire warnings to the dangers of capitalism. Pokémon is a franchise that’s grown so much Pikachu could give Ronald McDonald and Mickey Mouse a run for their money as the unofficial mascot of capitalism. Literally in the first game Giovanni is a warning about the dangers of corporate greed, and Lysandre is that same warning taken up to 11.

        I can’t help but think that porky either let this slip by him, or uses some self-deprecation intelligently. Oh, what are people going to do to revolt against him? Advocate to give him back discrimination AND child labor?

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      It’s porky putting on a rainbow top hat to make people think they’re good capitalist-woke

    • Sulvor [he/him, undecided]
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      2 months ago

      People in general recognize the problem. They just want to be told they aren't part of the problem, they're the resistance.

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    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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      In addition to what others have said, I think a lot of people in Hollywood are leftwing, but lack theory. They're trying to disseminate leftwing ideas, but don't realize how entryism doesn't work. They will tiptoe around execs (who are mostly a bunch incompetent of failsons with zero media literacy) to get projects made.

      One of the examples that comes to mind was Dalton Trumbo, an openly communist writer who was blacklisted during McCarthy. But he had a lot of friends in Hollywood who liked working with him, so they helped him by giving him a pseudonym on projects or coming to his defense in court.

      Stanley Kubrick would help Trumbo get back in the open with Spartacus, starring Kirk Douglas. It's not like Douglas became a tankie Maoist, but he did have positive things to say about Trumbo and his writing. Douglas' son is Michael Douglas, married to Catherine Zeta Jones. Again, they aren't die-hard communists, but they at least have enough connection to a leftist to have some leftwing ideas.

      tl;dr-- there used to be a bunch of commies in Hollywood until McCarthyism, but some of the sentiment is still present because LA is a small town.

    • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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      Think about it economicaly, studio execs know that the boomer white racist population is not that big and pandering to them is preaching to the choir in a church full of corpses.

      No matter what it makes economic sense to always pander to the younger generation to make sure you have a growing market.

      George Lucas's problem is his obvious lack of talent but he was a very important landmark, by explicitly saying "hey the biggest hollywood franchise needs younger fans yesterday!". The last 20 years is basically hollywood realizing this demographic shift, its not 1965 anymore and you absolutely can't pretend some cracker in the south is representative of the entire population or even the majority.

      Demographically these crazy chud middle class whites are not more than 50% of the population, not even close in fact. It doesn't make that much sense to alienate the majority. They're the niche market instead.

      While there may be the obvious economic difference and white middle class have a lot more money this doesn't matter when buying a movie ticket is not like financing a $500k home.

      It makes perfect sense for media to reflect the changing US demographics and specialy the urbanization and rural vs urban division in political views.

    • SubstantialNothingness [comrade/them]
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      2 months ago

      Art leans left. The suits role is to keep that leftism from getting too overt, while raking in the money.

      Another aspect: The common theme of the universe naturally leading to the resolution of injustices is a very addictive form of hopium that lulls individuals into inaction in real life. Like a lot of underdog stories. It really doesn't matter if the fictional baddies are right-wingers, so long as the content prevents everyone from doing anything about the real life baddies.

      And a final aspect: Who needs to be portrayed as good when they're rich and powerful? It's mostly people who rely on other people - rather than the privileges of money - who benefit by being good. The system already protects the rich. So when many people get rich, they stop caring what others think about them. It doesn't matter for their own quality of life anymore. And then people come along and want to to make a rich studio exec a lot more money by creating a show where the rich person's likeness is a baddie? The execs know that formula sells like hot cakes - easy deal!

  • VILenin [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    Why does a creative work actually try to be anything other than an incoherent hodgepodge of treatbrained slop for me to lobotomize myself with?

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    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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      More people don't do this. You don't have to like every piece of media you see. It's okay to not enjoy a popular album. Sometimes you just don't vibe with something. As long as it's not problematic with slurs, violence against women, etc. you don't need to have an opinion on it.

      So holy shit fuck off and find something else to enjoy. You don't need to force yourself into becoming a WWE fan. And you especially don't need to force yourself into the fandom and demand they make changes to suit your chud tastes.

  • buh [she/her]
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    2 months ago

    They can always watch Mr. Birchum or The New Norm

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    • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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      Dibs on Fahrenheit 451 to be the leftist 1984…because I’d rather not sound like a eugenicist when chuds are doing chud shit by comparing it to idiocracy.

      “Literally Fahrenheit 451.” rolls off the tongue kinda.

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    We need more nonpolitical shows like "Reacher" and "Law & Order"

  • culpritus [any]
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    tfw no media literacy fr

    It's like boiling a fascist frog, the subtext is too subtle until it isn't. In reality the frog (ideology) jumps (nopes) out before it let's itself boil.

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