• KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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    Canonically literally every Space Marine (except for the Blood Angels IIRC) should have dark skin when exposed to sunlight and then (except for the Salamanders) flash to an unnatural pallor when they step inside, because one of the mutations they get is photochromic skin to protect them from getting sunburns while still ensuring they get enough vitamin D. That sounds incredibly stupid and like I just made it up but that is the actual canon from the lore, along with Space Marines eating their enemies brains to gain their knowledge and having acid spit like the xenomorph.

    Warhammer 40K is a very silly franchise and the art direction does it a disservice by not leaning into it more.

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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      2 months ago

      Back during the Rogue Trader and 2nd edition days was when it was absolutely obvious

      Noise marines killing dudes by rocking out

      Harlequins dancing around in clashing loud colors

      Squats

    • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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      2 months ago

      Also the Emperor is from somewhere in what is now Turkey and canonically the most common language the humans speak ("Gothic") is descended from Mandarin and is just artistically portrayed as being Latin based because "High Gothic" is supposed to scan as archaic in the way that inserting incorrect Latin into English does.

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        • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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          Matt Ward is such an awful writer that exposure to his prose is an actual psychic damage hazard.

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            • vegeta1 [he/him]
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              2 months ago

              Thats probably the only context gamers like in OP are fine with seeing women.

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                • vegeta1 [he/him]
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                  2 months ago

                  I think that even got removed from canon. It wasn't even necessary tbh the point of the grey knights is they are downright impossible to corrupt. Hell they have kaldor draigo roaming the warp for hundreds of years (although hes like a gary stu)

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                    • vegeta1 [he/him]
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                      2 months ago

                      I keep saying 40k is over the top and even that was just goofy. The emperor gets fed 1000 psykers a day to keep him going. Then I remember covid coming along and over 1000 were dying a day and it was seen as acceptable sacrifice to grease the wheels of this machine and suddenly you realise FUCK

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                        • vegeta1 [he/him]
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                          And the former is somehow more..... Reasonable? If the golden throne collpases humanity is fucked unless the small chance of the star child happens. The latter...... Lol who is the over the top world 40k are the fanatics yet here we arei-cant

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        2 months ago

        You have a source for Gothic being Mandarin-descended? Never heard that before, but I could see it. The imperial palace being in the himalayas would certainly put it geographically in the correct place, but I don't remember from where he started the unification wars.

        • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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          2 months ago

          I think it's something from an old Rogue Trader article? So it may be more a metacommentary from an old writer sort of thing, that Gothic would have been descended from Mandarin with a bunch of English vocabulary mixed in, albeit all unrecognizable after tens of thousands of years of sound changes.

          • barrbaric [he/him]
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            2 months ago

            Just checked and Lexicanum has the following sentence on Low Gothic:

            Low Gothic is a bastardised version of High Gothic, combining additional elements from several of the oriental languages of ancient Terra.

            So close enough, but it still had to hit the 80's racism quotient lol.

  • heggs_bayer
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    2 months ago

    "improbably diverse", "improbable female authority figure".

    Holy shit these nerds need to get a life.

    • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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      2 months ago

      38,000 years in the future and 1 million fuckin worlds and these dipshits are talking about "improbably diverse" lmao

    • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      I've seen them call GTA VI "forced diversity". Please explain how Latino characters in South Florida are forced.

    • VHS [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      If they go outside they'll be offended at how improbably diverse it is

      One of their reviews was complaining that a NYC-set game had a majority of POC characters. NYC is 30% white IRL

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      2 months ago

      It's a game series about big muscle guys fighting psychic fungus orks and there are spaceships powered by magic. But black people and women are the improbable parts

      • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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        2 months ago

        Crackers wouldn’t last ten seconds without minorities whether they want to admit it or not.

        If they ever got their precious ethnostate, who would they have to look down on?

      • heggs_bayer
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        2 months ago

        pronouns "I go to games to escape current year politics and they shove all this political stuff in it! FUCKING PRONOUNS! pronounjak-rage

  • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    improbable female authority figure

    female authority figure is Cadian

    Cadia is (yes, Cadia still stands. fite me chaos nerds) a world where every human with a pulse and an age above 5 is handed a rifle and sent to boot camp because LITERAL HELL IS RIGHT THERE, JUST LOOK UP AT THE DAEMONS COMING TO GET YOU

    Bruh.

    Ultramarines are improbably diverse

    Ultramar is literally Space Rome, a massive cosmopolitan space empire consisting of 500 worlds and trillions of people

    capitaldcolon

    I'm going to find this person and beat them with my worn-out copy of Know No Fear until they stop whining about the existence of women and black people long enough to have at least a cursory knowledge of the lore they're butchering.

    • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      Yeah, them being angry that a Cadian woman is calling shots shows how they don't know the lore.

      • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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        2 months ago

        Cadia literally has child soldiers. Like they teach their kids how to use a gun before they teach them to read. In the event of a demonic invasion, Cadians expect toddlers to man the front lines. Fact: adult women are stronger than a five-year-old boy.

        • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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          2 months ago

          What's the phrase?: "A Cadian that can't field strip a gun by 4 was born on the wrong planet."

          • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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            2 months ago

            Still has, they just gathered the remanants and get new planet, but did not changed their ways. Whiteshields are still getting trained and still thrown into grinder at 15-16 year old. Maybe even younger now because the supply of recruits is short.

    • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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      2 months ago

      I remember part from the book about Ursula Creed ("Creed: Ashes of Cadia"), which was sadly the only good part of that book, where some general during war council tried to use Ursarkar against Ursula "What would your daddy do" and she straight up responded: "My father commanded over the worst disaster in entire history of Cadia. Excuse me but i would prefer to win"

    • barrbaric [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      It's true that there were a pair of models of FSM back in ye olde Rogue Trader days (Female Warrior Gabs and Female Warrior Jayne), but they weren't in the first batch. The first space marine model was the metal LE2 Imperial Space Marine in '85 (or possibly '86), followed by the RTB01 plastic kit in Sept '87 which came out at the same time as Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader (aka 1st edition). Gabs and Jayne were metal models ordered individually from a miscellaneous "Adventurers" release in Spring '88.

    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      Personally I don't think they sold like shit because they were women, either. I think they sold like shit because they look like complete shit. Even the best paint jobs on those two models still look awful.

  • Comp4 [she/her]
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    The Space Marines in Space Marine 2 are Ultramarines, hailing from Ultramar, which consists of around 500 planets. It’s highly unlikely that the population of these 500 worlds would be entirely white—in fact, it's almost impossible. Therefore, even if we stick to the lore, it makes sense that there would be Asian, and yes, Black, Ultramarines.

    Furthermore, considering the Imperium of Man is in a state of total war, it's laughable to criticize the existence of women in positions of authority. You can bet they’re recruiting everyone they can, and—gasp—some of those recruits are going to be women. Some of them will naturally rise through the ranks.

    You can tell these criticisms come from people who don’t actually love the lore but just engage with it to push their xenophobic agenda. It’s ironic that the Imperium of Man a Totalitarian Nightmare is too "progressive" for modern chuds.

    Little Icing on top. The Emperor most likely isnt "white" at least not blonde and blue eyed since he is originally from Anatolia (yes Turky)

    • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 months ago

      Little Icing on top. The Emperor most likely isnt "white" at least not blonde and blue eyed since he is originally from Anatolia (yes Turky)

      Emperor azan

      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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        2 months ago

        Both have a massive body and tiny head when sitting upon their chairs of choice.

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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      2 months ago

      Like, the books and video games have tons of high ranking women in positions of power in the Ecclesiarchy, Inquisition, Astra Militarum, Adeptes Custodes, planetary governors etc.

      Bunch of fake fans, probably don't even know Commissar Cain's infamous tryst with Inquisitor Amberley Vail smdh

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        • yoink [she/her]
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          i like how she's super badass, wearing all this armour on 90 percent of her body, wielding those massive guns and yet the artist still took the time to have her pose to push her boobs out, which are coincidentally the most highlighted part of her figure lmao

          they just can't help themselves

          eta: i just looked a the full picture - i didnt realise she was wearing a mask, meaning her boobs are the ONLY exposed part of her lmfao

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          • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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            Perhaps they're just airbrushed artwork on top of the armor. It seems like the sort of sardonic thing that character would do.

            • yoink [she/her]
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              2 months ago

              i mean, to me it very much looks like a corset/bodice/bodysuit, considering the lace goes right down to her crotch, but either way we're now entering 'she dresses horny because it makes her feel empowered' territory of male-driven treatistry

              • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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                2 months ago

                The books do mention her having a bodysuit that she wears underneath power armor before, so it's probably supposed to be that. No excuse for the gratuitous cleavage beyond she wants to look sexy while shooting things angle though.

        • VOLCEL_POLICE [it/its]B
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          2 months ago

          Show

          The VOLCEL POLICE are on the scene! PLEASE KEEP YOUR VITAL ESSENCES TO YOURSELVES AT ALL TIMES.

          نحن شرطة VolCel.بناءا على تعليمات الهيئة لترويج لألعاب الفيديو و النهي عن الجنس نرجوا الإبتعاد عن أي أفكار جنسية و الحفاظ على حيواناتكم المنويَّة حتى يوم الحساب. اتقوا الله، إنك لا تراه لكنه يراك.

          volcel-police

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    2 months ago

    GENESEEDS ARE IMPLANTED INTO A POTENTIAL CANDIDATE, IT DOES NOT CHANGE THEIR RACE, IT ONLY ADDS THE CAPACITY FOR FURTHER ENHANCEMENTS SUCH AS THE BLACK CARAPACE OR THE THING WHERE THEY CAN GAIN MEMORIES BY EATING BRAINS

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    2 months ago

    Chuds in their infinite glory have become the very strawmen they built up leftists of being. Complete with obsessing over a game's politics rather than the gameplay, which they are supposed to care so much about.

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  • Des [she/her, they/them]
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    2 months ago

    the imperium is undeniably human supremacist but has no problem putting every gender into the meat grinder equally

    like, this has always been the canon these fucks just want to think it's some tradcath space future

  • Utter_Karate [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 months ago

    I fell into a rabbit hole and started watching Warhammer lore videos a few years ago and then something - I don't know exactly what, maybe tone of voice or word choices - made me fall into another rabbit hole of searching for the content creators + feminism to see if they had gone on some insane rant and so many of them had made a "very special video" on the subject.

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          • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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            2 months ago

            I read books about Cato Sicarius and they just seems terribly uncanonical after TTS (they are also really bad bolter slop and typical example of overblown marine personality cult).

        • Gay_Tomato [they/them, it/its]
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          2 months ago

          it was miserable experience, he should just disappear after TTS ended.

          jesse-wtf I can understand not liking world of darkness buts a bit of an extreme reaction to content that isn't your jam.

          • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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            I do like world of darkness, its like my second rpg ever (though i prefer mage and vampire in it, and rather the old editions than new ones) i just find the distance between TTS and this grotesque

            • Gay_Tomato [they/them, it/its]
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              2 months ago

              i just find the distance between TTS and this grotesque

              He did want to just "disappaer" after the TT series ended but the internet stormed his patreon on mass. Its not just Alfabusa anymore and they aren't just limited to a single series anymore. That being said its understandable if it reminds you too much of TTS to watch (as far as Im aware they could continue making TTS along side this the moment GW stops being a baby) though I personally like the things can they do with these characters without the chud restrictions of the warhammer brand (like just causally making most of the cast openly queer) more. I'd like to recommend you watch there more orginal tabletop mage series hopefully its more for you.

  • ultraviolet [she/her]
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    2 months ago

    anyone who is this obsessed with "woke" in video games needs to have their computer forcibly taken away and sent to a gulag and be forced to touch grass until they become normal

  • buh [she/her]
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    2 months ago

    top-cop has to be the wokest person in existence to these people for being black, asian, and a woman all at the same time

    • Runcible [none/use name]
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      2 months ago

      It was too much for them and they settled on believing that she switches between being black and asian (semi-real)

        • Runcible [none/use name]
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          2 months ago

          just baseless accusations from them at her. There were some threads here that indicated that this was a fairly common experience for multiracial people.