I decided to scroll through lemmy dot world and laughed out loud when I read this comment.
"as aoc said when arguing why you should vote for biden the first time: you’re not just voting for the person who already gives you everything you want. you’re voting for the person you will argue against, criticize, protest and try to convince to do what you want. out of the two, who do you think is less likely to respond to protests? who’s more likely to be open to dialogue, even if it’s an adversarial one? vote for Harris, then protest the fuck out of her positions you don’t like. maybe with enough pressure you can force some change. with mango mussolini you have no chance."
My favorite lib strategy. Give up what little leverage you have, give the person you don't like everything they want, and then complain about it from a position of zero political influence. Also, if you complain well enough to actually require an issue be addressed, you'll get the full weight of the US legal and enforcement mechanisms on your ass.
who’s more likely to be open to dialogue, even if it’s an adversarial one?
Libs completely ignoring that both Trump and Harris are equally unlikely to listen to the average person. With a majority of the country opposing genocide, it's still full steam ahead even though it might cost the dems the election.
Yes, both sides are complicit in genocide which should be a red line. Is there literally anything that the democrats could do that would result in you not voting for them? If Harris came out and openly said "I support the genocide of Palestinians", would you still vote for her because Trump would be worse?
Is there literally anything that the democrats could do that would result in you not voting for them?
the question you will never, ever receive an answer to
@migo@lemmy.dbzer0.com prove me wrong
Seriously, lol. Harris could shoot someone on 5th avenue and they'd still vote for her.
Do you guys say this even when both sides are the same? In a vote between sky blue and navy blue, neither option is red, and neither option is closer to red.
"how can you think they're the same? Trump will sign the authorizations for weapons and funding with a darker sharpie" —you, a clueless genocide apologist
If that's your metric I'm not sure K-dolf comes out on top. Both are genocidal maniacs but Trump is so vain and erratic that you could at least imagine him doing something for popularity's sake even if it was the right thing to do.
Bruh trump may have been effective in turning some arab states' backs on palestine but biden and harris ran one of the most effective white washing of a genocide I've ever seen. I don't think people contemplate how bad it is.
It's a paper thin cover up
They're burning all their soft power for their MENA base and it'll fuck their standing in the long run
how it doesn't psychically break liberals to campaign for someone like Harris is inconceivable to me
you don’t understand first past the post do you?
I'm so sick of libs going on about "first past the post" and ranked choice voting. They always have a magic reform they obsess over. Before this every lib would thought terminate with "We need to overturn Citizens United!" It's their magic smart person thing to say, that if this one thing changed then it will all be perfect.
they never have a plan beyond wishing for it. it's just that oprah bullshit about thinking good thoughts, so good things come to them.
Libs operate based on 40k Ork magic, they think if enough people believe hard enough things will get better.
And just like in regular Calvinism, you can tell who's virtuous by how rich and "successful" they are within capitalism. It's a secular version of specifically the amerikkkan prosperity gospel branch of Calvinism.
Someone needs to send them your pfp Red Rosa's book on the topic; for them to read or to bludgeon them with, whichever tbh.
Genocide is evil and I will oppose it by carrying out my prescribed role in the genocide machine. I’ve heard if you just work hard enough the machine will stop doing genocide and build a welfare state instead.
you won’t defeat it by participating in the system either.
Not trying to praise Bernie, but the they basically say 'I like bust actually'
For us Bernie or bust meant if this electoralism shit doesn't work out we are gonna bust some fuckin heads.
For this fuckin nerd it meant they were just gonna shrug and give up.
the more egregious ignorance in that post is the notion that they are participating in the system
its not a very big club, and you ain't in it
Straight up genocide denial. It's the only way I would describe this. Neither Harris or Trump are going to stop the genocide.
Torment is bad, which is why we all must do our part and clock in our 16hrs a day at the Torment Nexus type beat
won't defeat it by not participating in the system
the system IS genocide and you won't defeat it by participating within it
I was a dem soc in 2016, border line "Bernie Bro" or whatever, and still voted Clinton in Florida and the best progressive options I could down ballot.
I got blamed for her losing Florida.
I voted Biden despite this. Even though I was a real leftist is 2020.
Somehow, I'm still to blame.
I ain't falling for this shit this time. They want to piss and cry and fart that I'm a problem. But they won't work to get any of the 50% of eligible voters that are disengaged, only to blame the 0.3% that protest vote. Controlled opposition is too nice, they're just opposition at this point.
ive had mayan pilot stuck in my head for longer than most hexbears have been alive
edit: oh wow that song isnt in the soundtrack, but the band is
I thought they were actually pretty fun when they were making ridiculous scifi-themed songs and dressing up in astronaut suits. Ironically, when they tried to get more serious they got very cringe.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
"do not let the perfect be the enemy of the good" MOTHERFUCKER GENOCIDE ISNT GOOD
or 
