Hi everyone and welcome to the new Megathread :) For my first Mega I want to share a special interest of mine: the magnetic field and how to understand its behavior intuitively.

I'm guessing most of us have played with magnets before at some point and have felt that mysterious force pushing them apart or pulling them together, depending on how the magnets are oriented toward each other. Some of you may have also seen diagrams like this

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(By Geek3 - Own work,This file was derived from: Ironfilings cylindermagnet.svg This file was derived from: Magnet compasses.svg, CC BY-SA 4.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=88524982)

Or done an experiment where you visualize the magnetic field lines with iron filings like this

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(Public domain, Newton Henry Black, Harvey N. Davis (1913) Practical Physics, The MacMillan Co., USA, p. 242, fig. 200)

These lines represent the shape of the magnetic field. The way you can interpret them is that if you place a compass in the field, the compass will align with the field lines at that point. And the closer the lines are to each other, the stronger the magnetic field is in that area. Also, magnetic field lines always form closed loops. They appear to end at the poles of a magnet, but actually they continue on inside the magnet. They do however exit/enter the magnet at the poles.

"But Witchy," you may ask, "why are the lines so concentrated at the poles but then they spread out so much as they travel from one pole of the magnet to the other?" Excellent question my theoretical student XD.

This is I think the key point that was a bit of a eureka moment for me when I realized it a long time ago when I was studying this stuff: the magnetic field lines "want" to be as short as possible while also "wanting" to be as far apart as possible. And when I say want, it does actually behave a little bit like a desire, as the magnetic objects in this field will experience a magnetic force tryin gthe move the object to spread out the field lines and make them shorter.

Let's use this picture I grabbed from Wikipedia as an example:

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(By Geek3 - Own work, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=10555891)

the bar magnet creates a strong magnetic field at the poles, which means lots of magnetic field lines are squeezed closely together at the poles where they enter/exit the magnet. These lines don't want to be so tightly packed together, so they immediately start spreading out but also immediately start curving towards the opposite pole to try to keep the distance short. If you then try to bring the north pole of another bar magnet close to the north pole of this one, both have magnetic field lines coming out trying to get to their respective south poles, but now even more tightly packed together as you bring the magnets together. Since the magnetic field lines don't want to be so close together, both magnets experience a force pushing each other away so that the magnetic field lines aren't being pushed together so tight.

Similarly, if the south pole of one bar magnet is brought near the north pole of another, the magnetic field lines exiting the north pole of one want to go to the south pole, but the closest south pole is the south pole of the other magnet being brought close, so now the lines go through both magnets before looping back around:

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(By Geek3 - Own work, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=10515628)

However, between the closest poles of the two magnets, the lines are still concentrated but will try to spread out between the poles. Since the lines want to be as short as possible and don't want to spread out, the magnetic field exerts a force on the bar magnets pulling them together, since that would shorten the lines between the poles down to pretty much nothing.

Finally, a few of you may have been wondering what determines how much the magnetic field lines want to spread out vs shorten. These two tendencies are in opposition pretty much all the time, since spreading the lines out more requires making them longer. This is determined by something called the magnetic permeability which is a property of the materials that the field is passing through (even air or a vacuum). High permeability materials tend to concentrate the magnetic field lines more and allow them to get shorter, while low permeability materials tend to force the lines to spread out and lengthen. Examples of materials with high permeability are iron, cobalt, and other magnetic or ferromagnetic materials. Low permeability are pretty much anything that doesn't experience force in a magnetic field, so most things.

Post thumbnail attribution: (By Omegatron - Own work, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=640068)

Anyway I hope some of you enjoyed this rant or find the information here useful. I can talk about magnets all day so feel free to hit me up if you want, though my inbox will be overflowing for the next week I'm guessing.

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  • BountifulEggnog [she/her]
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    12 days ago

    I really should do self care tonight but I cry every time so I'm dreading it. I already cried plenty today, just have to force myself through it I guess. Keep putting it off but I can't put it off long enough. screm-aaaaa

    • LocalOaf [they/them, ze/hir]
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      12 days ago

      cuddle

      Me the other day

      If I, a humble oaf, can muster up the gumption, I'm confident in you, a bountiful eggnog

      Hell, you're bountiful! I'm barely even adequate if I'm being honest. You got this!

      trans-heart meow-bounce trans-heart

      • BountifulEggnog [she/her]
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        11 days ago

        Aw, thanks meow-hug I did the easier stuff, maybe tomorrow I'll get the rest done.

        Also you are not "barely even adequate", you're always so nice to me and I think highly of you cat-trans

        • LocalOaf [they/them, ze/hir]
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          11 days ago

          innocence aww!!! that's so sweet of you!

          I'm gonna try and get to the harder self-care stuff tomorrow too (got a bottle of a fancy new depilatory cream at an outlet store that I haven't tried yet, been trying to muster up the willpower to do it and see how it goes)

          Had a long ass day and should try to get ready for bed though

          af-heart niko-sleep heart-sickle

          • BountifulEggnog [she/her]
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            11 days ago

            Oh nice, that's exciting. I haven't tried any of those yet. Hope it goes well for you.

            Good idea, hope you sleep well kirby-wave I should probably start thinking about it soon too.

            • LocalOaf [they/them, ze/hir]
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              11 days ago

              Lmao I went for a walk because I couldn't sleep and went to the gym and hit the leg press and walked home and now it's 6am and I'm still awake

              yes-honey-left

              My legs are fuckin' shredded lady-doge

              But at what cost zenz

              • LocalOaf [they/them, ze/hir]
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                11 days ago

                Also took a very corny selfie because I had the whole place to myself in the middle of the night

                jotaro-walk menacing menacing menacing menacing

              • BountifulEggnog [she/her]
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                11 days ago

                I didn't sleep until 7am limmy-awake Maybe one day we'll have normal sleep...

                Being shredded though lets-fucking-go

                • LocalOaf [they/them, ze/hir]
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                  11 days ago

                  I still have a muffin top but my legs are p hot tbh shy

                  Need to do more glute bridge stuff and hip ab/addiction for butt

                  I have a tendency to overdo leg press, it's by far my favorite for the sheer cave dwelling lizard brain satisfaction of moving a dozen plates at the same time and the masochistic endorphin rush afterwards

                  666 pounds, 3 sets of 6

                  Rip and tear, until it is done

                  sicko-satan astronaut-1