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    • anthm17 [he/him]
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      Completely applicable and completely fair. Continue simping for Jack Ma you lib.

        • anthm17 [he/him]
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          God damn right I'll shit on fake socialists and dictators.

          • lilpissbaby [any]
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            you do realize that you're the type of "leftist" who would've denounced the USSR and sided with the US over it?

      • volkvulture [none/use name]
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        https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/22/asia/china-ren-zhiqiang-xi-jinping-intl-hnk/index.html this guy was corrupt af and got owned just this year LOL

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-china-31310325 this guy was similarly involved in corruption scandal and international intrigue/organize crime... got owned

        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/1502808/Tycoon-paid-3-bn-for-stay-of-execution.html and this shit is just sad LOL... another billionaire OWNED

        Dude, you have no idea what you're talking about, Chinese billionaires are kept coloring within the lines & many have been executed for their very serious corruption & dealings with the black market & mafia

        You're a lib if you think that jailing a billionaire for 18 years for his fucking slimy corruption is the same as Western capitalism & "liberal democracy" giving Jeffrey Epstein a fucking plea deal

        laughable

        • anthm17 [he/him]
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          You’re a lib if you think that jailing a billionaire for 18 years for his fucking slimy corruption is the same as Western capitalism & “liberal democracy” giving Jeffrey Epstein a fucking plea deal

          What am I if I point out that they were fine with his exploitation of the workers and only went after him after he critized Xi?

            • anthm17 [he/him]
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              That's racist just like a liberal too.

              Weird how I'm talking about billionaires and leadership and you just keep yelling at me for being white and referencing "yellow hordes".

                • anthm17 [he/him]
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                  when attempting to influence the government away from socialism (4 Cardinal principles) is literally the most common grounds for said government expropriating your wealth and corporations.

                  Damn and all the billionaires get out that is a free hand to extract immense value from the population.

                  Fucking great form of socialism.

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                  https://www.nst.com.my/world/world/2020/10/633787/chinas-super-rich-got-15-trillion-richer-during-pandemic OK Capitalist.

          • volkvulture [none/use name]
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            no one's invented the "communism" button yet, and Marx himself just critiqued capitalism... if only to reveal contradictions that must be addressed and utilized in a less exploitative & socially deleterious manner

            "productive forces" have to be utilized and improved and turned toward social ends. firms have to be organized & workers have to be engaged in production

            if you don't think the "mass line" & nationalization of large industries just this year are tantamount to an actual full-on display of the power of "labor theory of value", you're losing the thread imo

            https://www.ft.com/content/22108ddd-3280-4013-bcd8-1adc9e6ae13d PRC just reported 4.9% growth yesterday, their consumer spending is returning. And yet, we will only see losses in any other major capitalist country. India shrank something like 30% in the 2nd quarter, that's devastating.

            China still leads the world in manufacturing output, the raw numbers of comparative global economic activity & dynamism make this clear

              • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                4 years ago

                i'm just not going to try to blame the CPC for the West's failure to socially address economic issues

                Did PRC socially address this year's economic downturn or nah?

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                  So that's a yes.

                  Screw off capitalist.

                  • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                    anti-capitalism is easy, but how would you suggest one build a civilization without first examining and utilizing the tools we have?

                    western liberal democracy created catastrophic horrifying nuclear weapons technology using state capitalism, does that mean USSR and communists should've planted flowers in missile silos?

                    material circumstances require tempered material responses, not wishful thinking & ... what else are you suggesting again?

                    i didn't say that Deng Xiaoping was right, I said that CPC is doing the thing right now to weather this year's material circumstances using anti-capitalist measures

                    but again

                    state capitalism and this discussion we're having right now is literally the primary stage of socialism