Healthcare
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Healthcare
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add a few zeroes to the "fast" one, because that's concierge medicine.
the rest of us can see six figure bills after waiting 6 months for routine bullshit.
the idea that healthcare in the US is "fast" is a myth. the waiting times are high, staffing rates are abysmal, and health service providers are shuttering anyway.
Yeah, this is a bullshit diagram to include America with either fast or good. I've waited for an operation for between six months and two years before, only to find out the appointment is actually an office visit, and at which the actual operation is scheduled, again for six months to two years out. And then you get the six-figure bill.
I went through a shitload of hoops to get oral surgery I was referred for to be covered by my insurance and be handled by everyone in network. I had to call one place 4 times to get them to fax and email signed records to someone else and call that place 3 times to confirm they had received it and added it. that led to a 3 way conference call where the insurer said everything would be covered and not to worry, there would be no charge at all.
which meant a $400 bill 3 months later, which I called to dispute and the insurer said that of course I would have to pay those surgery fees because those fees are never covered by insurance, silly biy. this is literally at the place I worked, my employer, charging me fees for in network services for covered and required surgery based on their consultants.
and the best part is, relating this story to others in the states gets, "oh wow, you only paid $400 for oral surgery, that's a great deal."
"oh wow, you only paid $400 for oral surgery, that's a great deal."
I was honestly thinking the same thing 🤦
Hell, there's a massive shortage of psychiatrists, I know recently a major insurance provider is getting out of Medicaid completely. At this rate, concierge doctors are probably competitive to paying for insurance.
well, employers also get some kind of weird, old tax break for the "employer contribution" side of health insurance. so through creative accounting, part of a worker's compensation package is tax deductible for their employer when it goes to an insurance company.
I think it dates back to almost WW2 and is yet another public policy giveaway to the largest capital formations and is touted as something nice your employer does for you and never something that you earn which is being stolen from you and deposited into the accounts of insurers you can't choose.
I'd love to learn more about concierge medicine and how that whole system works for our elites, but haven't seen any great writeups or documentaries on it. Bet it would be radicalizing for a lot of people, especially while everyone's still talking about how dogshit our health"care" is following The Adjustment
If it helps we actually have terrible quality Healthcare in the US. So it is expensive and bad
This is exactly how USians justify not having socialised healthcare
Now what do these three societies have in common, I wonder?except american healthcare also isn't good or fast, and canadian healthcare is in fact pretty good for most things.
Yeah, every time I hear a Canadian comai ing about a wait it is usually shorter than an wait in the US
A few years ago I heard from a few people that breast cancer is not treated in Canada. That seemed highly unlikely, and about 1 minute of research confirmed it wasn't true, but do you have any idea what people were talking about?
This is how Anglo chuds think healthcare works. The truth is, none of them are fast, good, or cheap. Also, the PCM colors are just decroded.
As a disabled person, Western healthcare is abysmal and reactionary.
The rich in the US get great healthcare. Parenti has a good discussion on this in Profit Pathology and Other Indecencies incidentally.
the rich everywhere get great healthcare. Even in UK there are private healthcare options for specialists
Though almost all of the serious stuff gets given back to the NHS. Private surgery is very hard to get.
I've personally never had a bad experience with the NHS in the UK. When I needed surgery it was less than a month between diagnosis and the surgery itself and I wasn't dying from it. When I broke my leg, they put all the bits of bones back in the right place, it healed back perfectly despite them thinking there may be permanent damage and the hospital food during my week long stay was actually pretty good. The staff are overworked, but the bedside manner wasn't bad, and across maybe six serious visits to hospital I only paid about £10 in parking fees.
It's how it should work for everyone everywhere.
Colombia's system isn't even particularly good but people of any income level here can take their kid to get checked out at the hospital for fevers and coughs without a second thought
It honestly shook me to experience that. People can just... go to the doctor? I dropped a piece of furniture on my foot and thought I might have broken it and with my US-traumatized brain I was still like, nah we don't need to go to the ER let's just see how this plays out
Some statistics I found. I put very little effort into finding these rankings so the sources might be utter shite.
Good and cheap:
- Japan
- illegal zionist entity
- Norway
- Iceland
- Sweden
- Switzerland
Cheap and fast:
- Japan
- Switzerland
- Denmark
Fast and good
- Japan
- South Korea
- Switzerland
Fast and cheap and good:
- Japan
- Switzerland
Countries with the best healthcare systems in the world:
- Singapore
- Japan
- South Korea
- Taiwan
- China
- illegal zionist entity
- Norway
- Iceland
- Sweden
- Switzerland
Canada is number 32 between Thailand and the UAE, the UK is number 34 between the UAE and Uruguay. The US is 69th, between Armenia and Algeria.
Most and least affordable countries for healthcare:
Most affordable:
- Luxembourg
- Iceland
- Norway
- Denmark
- Japan
- Netherlands
- New Zealand
- Sweden
- United Kingdom
- Germany
- France
- illegal zionist entity
- Australia
- Finland
- Switzerland
Least affordable
- Greece
- Portugal
- Malta
- Lithuania
- Cyprus
- Slovenia
- Poland
- Austria
- Spain
- South Korea
- Italy
- United States
- Belgium
- Estonia
- Ireland
Percentage of respondents who are satisfied with waiting times
- Panama
- Japan
- Thailand
- South Korea
- Cyprus
- Switzerland
- Taiwan
- Sri Lanka
- Denmark
- Jordan
Canada is number 54. The UK is number 44. The US is number 17.
So in conclusion, American, Canadian and British healthcare is neither good nor fast. At the least British healthcare is cheap, something neither Canadian or American healthcare can boast of.
American healthcare is by far the most expensive in the world though. That's something.
Australia the 13th most affordable and the 8th least affordable
It's so stupid here. We have Medicare but you need to pay a deductible to see a doctor. So you need to be able to afford the full cost of an appointment, then you get some of that refunded back later
Yeah it used to be pretty easy to find a doctor that bulk bills but no so much anymore. Don't even get me started on the medicare levy surcharge bullshit.
That's a great list, really shows how some of the most "advanced" capitalist economies are unable to provide decent basic human needs.
congratulations for posting the exact same meme the edgy racist humor guy in my minecraft discord server did
extra points for not having the ifunny watermark it had the first time i saw this political compass meme garbage
Good healthcare from the national that put their nurses in trash bags during covid? They're obsessed with aesthetics and still did that shit.
There's only one class that contributes positively to the world so write that down
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NYC hospital had nurses wearing trash bags as PPE
Better than nothing when the demand for disposable PPE suddenly gets 10s of times higher than it normally is
I just feel like the richest country on Earth should feel shame for not having the capacity to deal with surges - especially in the wake of hyping it up.
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As the world continues to battle the Covid-19 pandemic, it remains underprepared for future epidemics and pandemics, according to new research. No country reached the highest category of preparedness for future health emergencies on the 2021 Global Health Security Index, a joint project of the Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI), the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security at the Bloomberg School of Public Health and Economist Impact.
Global Health Security Index, a joint project of the Nuclear Threat Initiative (NTI), the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security at the Bloomberg School of Public Health and Economist Impact.
Puts the DPRK at #1.
Checks out, checks out.
how the fuck are they still using The Same Map after COVID? that's from 2021
Yeah I totally agree I guess I was more defending the actual workers lacking adequate supplies and doing their best.
Like when your hospital charges people $20 for a Tylenol, maybe invest in emergency preparedness.
Then we're on the same side believing the same thing. God damn America for making the trash bag seem like an attractive option
Like when your hospital charges people $20 for a Tylenol
what usamerikkkan hospital only charges $20 for Tylenol? when I got some it was $200
I hope direct primary care takes off in the US. It sucks to have another monthly subscription but it's worth its weight in gold. Hoping specialists and dentists start adopting a similar system in conjunction with primary care. Probably not though.
But yeah you are right, angloid moment lol.
what would be authright? restricting healthcare to only a certain race/group of people and giving the rest bare bones? or making healthcare affordable only if they're that race/group? or just relying on "religious/alternative medicine", rejecting modern medicine as "marks of the beast" and "playing god"?
and what country would be authright?
lol just wondering
since it already has authleft, libleft and libright covered
might as well cover the last quadrant
these are all right wing nations with authoritarian governments
