Thread whining about it

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Blahaj.zone is a fucking disaster. I don’t remember any user accounts from that place who comment with any sort of sanity. It’s like the lemmygrad of the LBGTQIA+.

What are we, chopped liver?

  • MarmiteLover123 [comrade/them, comrade/them]
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    7 days ago

    Some mods also believe this user to be a new account by a troll named droneright.

    Ok now that's a reference only some people that have been on here for a long time will get. All I can say is:

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    If the Blahaj.zone admins are allowing dronerights version 3.0 to troll their community and abuse their understanding and empathy, and are dismissing moderator concerns about it, that would be a new low. Even worse than the "people of NATO" stuff the admins trotted out during hexbear federation. Dronerights was such an obvious troll that they even got banned on hexbear years ago.

    For those unfamiliar with dronerights, you can view their modlog entry here. Warning for reactionary content and trolling.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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      7 days ago

      The way we got PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES (this was dronesright's original account although I don't think that account was used on Hexbear) was simply to respect its pronouns and wait for it to slip up on something else which reactionaries tend to do. I think PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES fucked up by being racist.

      • MarmiteLover123 [comrade/them, comrade/them]
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        7 days ago

        Well apparently the dragon user has already engaged in misgendering and encouraging suicide on the Blahaj.zone according to their modlog, but they're not site banned and even got unbanned from the trans community, from what I can see? Just real centrist stuff by the Blahaj.zone admins. I think I linked the Blahaj.zone modlog for the dragon user in another comment if you want to see for yourself.

        • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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          7 days ago

          Hi, I mod over there as of recently. I actually banned (and recently unbanned) the dragon user on that comm because I wasn't really aware of the extent of the lore surrounding the various accounts as it was before my time. I also didn't even think to dig into the hexbear modlog either.

          The vibes were definitely off, but I figured just give it a couple weeks and unban as drag had messaged me disputing being the other users. I figured someone would either speak up or drag would say something more incriminating down the line. I would appreciate any more background you might have though.

    • TC_209 [he/him, pup/pup's]
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      7 days ago

      I'm glad I'm not the only one who got the sense that this was Dronerights again, but I'm even happier that this whole mishegoss lead to a stronger stance on neo-pronouns and some of the worst shitheads are crying about it.

      • MarmiteLover123 [comrade/them, comrade/them]
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        7 days ago

        I just have no clue why the admins want to die on the hill of defending dronerights and allowing them on the instance, if that's what's happening. The simple and obvious solution is just to ban trolls like dronerights, trust the moderators that volunteer for you, and most importantly, update the pronouns policy to be more inclusive of neopronouns and ban the bigots, which is what hexbear did years ago. Better end result with much less drama. But I have a feeling that a lot of Internet admins enjoy drama and grandstanding, so that approach would be unappealing.

        • TC_209 [he/him, pup/pup's]
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          7 days ago

          I gotta disagree. While my bs detector is telling me Dragon Rider is Dronerights, UmbraVivi makes a good point later in this thread, especially with the mention of Otherkins. Dragon Rider may not be acting in good faith (or maybe is, I can't say with certainty), but others like drag might in the future. I think Blahaj is doing the best thing right now.

          EDIT: Plus, if you and my bs detector are right, then Dragon Rider will end up doing with Dronerights did: engage in clear rule-breaking behavior that results in a ban anyways.

          • MarmiteLover123 [comrade/them, comrade/them]
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            7 days ago

            Plus, if you and my bs detector are right, then Dragon Rider will end up doing with Dronerights did: engage in clear rule-breaking behavior that results in a ban anyways.

            You see that's where I disagree: if the admins are foolish enough to let an obvious troll like dronerights on the instance, they'll be allowed to engage in rule breaking behaviour without getting banned. Apparently the dragon user has already been banned from a few communities by moderators for rule breaking behaviour, but the admins are still allowing them on the instance. I think that you are vastly overestimating the Blahaj.zone admins competence, they have come up with some wild stuff over the years, people of NATO was just one of the highlights.

            Just look at this modlog of the dragon user. Apparently they have a history of "misgendering and encouraging suicide", yet they're still allowed on the instance? Pure incompetence not to site ban them. Apparently one of the entries in the log states that a "perm ban was heavy-handed"?!?!? So they're just going to let the dragon user roam freely on the instance after all that? Incredible stuff is happening on the internet. The admin post is all about respecting pronouns, to protect a user that doesn't do that themselves according to their own modlog history. Peak irony right there. Incredible stuff from the admin team.

            But if they want to set fire to their instance over supporting a troll that has been banned across Lemmy for racist behaviour and partaking in misgendering themselves, including on here, that's none of our business really. We as an instance have also made some really boneheaded decisions over the years.

    • buckykat [none/use name]
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      7 days ago

      I still don't think dronerights was a troll as such, just a genuine fucking weirdo with plenty of reactionary opinions. Like, I think it genuinely believes all the wild ass shit it claimed to believe.