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Blahaj.zone is a fucking disaster. I don’t remember any user accounts from that place who comment with any sort of sanity. It’s like the lemmygrad of the LBGTQIA+.

What are we, chopped liver?

  • frauddogg
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    • thelastaxolotl [he/him]
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      5 days ago

      Turns out that you have to actually ban transphobes so they disappear from your "safe" instance instead of just closing your eyes

  • TheDrink [he/him]
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    5 days ago

    It's like looking though a time machine to Chapo.Chat michael-laugh

    Keep on eye on the blahaj mods, they might become tankies at this rate.

    • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]
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      5 days ago

      Considering their "fuck tankies" rule, I doubt it, without fundamentally losing the purpose of blahaj.

      • Nakoichi [they/them]
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        5 days ago

        Yeah anyone that has a change of heart or a further development of theory and ideology should just come here tbh

        • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]
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          5 days ago

          Yep. Blahaj has the anti-Marxist users it does because otherwise they'd be here. Blahaj exists because it provides something different. Anticommunism is one of the fundamental building blocks of blahaj.

            • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]
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              5 days ago

              Yep. They are the epitome of "western leftists," exclusively anti-AES Anarchists and liberals. When you take away the anticommunism, blahaj loses its identity outside of being a smaller queer-focused space.

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                • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]
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                  4 days ago

                  Absolutely. There's not even a shred of coherence except the underlying pattern of supporting Imperialism and denouncing movements against it, and dressing said opinion in leftist colors. It's the logical extent of someone radicalized by Capitalism and being totally captured by western brainworms.

  • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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    5 days ago

    Like natural fire cycles in a forest promotes healthy growth purges too are a needed part in keeping a healthy social sphere

  • Lerios [hy/hym]
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    i was honestly so surpised when we were originally talking about what pronouns to add, i very hesitantly suggested a neopronoun even though i was awkward and nervous and scared of stepping on trans peoples' toes, and the only responce i got was "cool. done 👍"... like, you're not going to make me justify that? or explain my whole deal? or even ask what that is???? wild. based hexbear

    • Pandantic [they/them]@midwest.social
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      5 days ago

      The thing is, and what those arguing against it don’t understand, that it matters to someone and that’s enough to say “okay, who cares if this user is trolling (or dragons aren’t real or what-the-fuck-ever), it matters to someone so it’s worth protecting.”

      • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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        5 days ago

        What dumber still is that the people who use it to troll only get their kicks if anyone reacts to it. If no one does and just calls them what they say they want they'll just give up.

  • thelastaxolotl [he/him]
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    5 days ago

    Lol the world power users took a stand against blahaj and are now posting goodbye posts https://lemmy.world/post/23601205

    • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]
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      Of course it's PJ, the most fed-coded "left" anticommunist on that site. This is, of course, after they defended Blahaj users accusing Hexbear users of being "fake trans" for "internet clout." PJ will always take the most reactionary stance that can be shrouded in idealist leftism possible.

      • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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        5 days ago

        I had been wondering why my feed looked measurably less toxic and it was just missing PJ because he got banned from .ml 3 months ago

        • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]
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          5 days ago

          I blocked them because I tried several times to reach them to no avail, they're so fed-coded and firmly denounce any successful leftist movement and firmly support only "left" anticommunism or color revolutions.

        • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]
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          5 days ago

          One of the only people I blocked on my Lemmy.ml account, their relentless "left" anticommunism would make Orwell and Chomsky blush. I tried several times to reach them but they had no consistent views, just firm denouncement of anything successful and rabid support for every color revolution as "true" leftism.

            • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]
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              5 days ago

              I don't think that's quite true, they believe what they do because underneath it all, they seek to perpetuate the Status Quo. They oppose real change to US Imperialism because they benefit from it, or at least believe they do, ergo if they can be convinced otherwise they may change their tune. However, I don't have the patience required for that.

              Masses, Elites, and Rebels: The Theory of "Brainwashing" is a must read on this subject.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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      5 days ago

      Mythic rare not terrible lemmy.world comment:

      I think it’s interesting that 4chan has invented “anon” as, functionally, a naturally occurring genderless neopronoun. I would argue even more genderless than xe/xim because while xe/xim was created in relation to gender, anon was created with no connection to gender at all. Xe/xim is “not he or she” whereas anon is he, she, they, xe, or anything else. There’s other words as well (homie, oomfie, bestie) that are functionally genderless neopronouns although these (and anon) are commonly used alongside gendered pronouns eg: anon posted his greentext on 4chan, I visited bestie and her dog.

      • nohaybanda [he/him]
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        4 days ago

        This is absolutely not true. The “anonymity” of 4chan was always cishet coded - there’s no girls on the internet etc. And if any woman wants to assert her gender she can, she just has to open herself up to misogynistic harassment - t*ts or gtfo etc.

        • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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          4 days ago

          Then there's the use of the gay f-word that 4chan likes to slap onto everything. It's always been a male space.

      • Speaker [e/em/eir]
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        5 days ago

        Deeply looking forward to adding the "singular 'chat'" discourse to the struggle session list once everyone is over "singular 'they'".

  • Parzivus [any]
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    5 days ago

    The site with Blahaj in the name didn't already have a neopronouns rule? sanae-boomer

    • MarmiteLover123 [comrade/them, comrade/them]
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      Apparently some moderators think that the now banned hexbear troll with the username: "dronerights", modlog entry here warning for reactionary content and trolling, has returned to troll the Blahaj.zone as a new account, which had led to this whole blow up.

      • Pandantic [they/them]@midwest.social
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        5 days ago

        I think the reminder was basically, “It doesn’t matter if you think either a user’s pronouns or the user themselves is trolling (or problematic, etc.) - the rules still require you to respect everyone’s pronouns.”

    • hexbee [she/her]
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      5 days ago

      Not really surprising, the name itself is a red flag

  • MarmiteLover123 [comrade/them, comrade/them]
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    Some mods also believe this user to be a new account by a troll named droneright.

    Ok now that's a reference only some people that have been on here for a long time will get. All I can say is:

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    If the Blahaj.zone admins are allowing dronerights version 3.0 to troll their community and abuse their understanding and empathy, and are dismissing moderator concerns about it, that would be a new low. Even worse than the "people of NATO" stuff the admins trotted out during hexbear federation. Dronerights was such an obvious troll that they even got banned on hexbear years ago.

    For those unfamiliar with dronerights, you can view their modlog entry here. Warning for reactionary content and trolling.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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      5 days ago

      The way we got PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES (this was dronesright's original account although I don't think that account was used on Hexbear) was simply to respect its pronouns and wait for it to slip up on something else which reactionaries tend to do. I think PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES fucked up by being racist.

      • MarmiteLover123 [comrade/them, comrade/them]
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        Well apparently the dragon user has already engaged in misgendering and encouraging suicide on the Blahaj.zone according to their modlog, but they're not site banned and even got unbanned from the trans community, from what I can see? Just real centrist stuff by the Blahaj.zone admins. I think I linked the Blahaj.zone modlog for the dragon user in another comment if you want to see for yourself.

        • Diva (she/her)@lemmy.ml
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          5 days ago

          Hi, I mod over there as of recently. I actually banned (and recently unbanned) the dragon user on that comm because I wasn't really aware of the extent of the lore surrounding the various accounts as it was before my time. I also didn't even think to dig into the hexbear modlog either.

          The vibes were definitely off, but I figured just give it a couple weeks and unban as drag had messaged me disputing being the other users. I figured someone would either speak up or drag would say something more incriminating down the line. I would appreciate any more background you might have though.

    • TC_209 [he/him, comrade/them]
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      5 days ago

      I'm glad I'm not the only one who got the sense that this was Dronerights again, but I'm even happier that this whole mishegoss lead to a stronger stance on neo-pronouns and some of the worst shitheads are crying about it.

      • MarmiteLover123 [comrade/them, comrade/them]
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        I just have no clue why the admins want to die on the hill of defending dronerights and allowing them on the instance, if that's what's happening. The simple and obvious solution is just to ban trolls like dronerights, trust the moderators that volunteer for you, and most importantly, update the pronouns policy to be more inclusive of neopronouns and ban the bigots, which is what hexbear did years ago. Better end result with much less drama. But I have a feeling that a lot of Internet admins enjoy drama and grandstanding, so that approach would be unappealing.

        • TC_209 [he/him, comrade/them]
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          5 days ago

          I gotta disagree. While my bs detector is telling me Dragon Rider is Dronerights, UmbraVivi makes a good point later in this thread, especially with the mention of Otherkins. Dragon Rider may not be acting in good faith (or maybe is, I can't say with certainty), but others like drag might in the future. I think Blahaj is doing the best thing right now.

          EDIT: Plus, if you and my bs detector are right, then Dragon Rider will end up doing with Dronerights did: engage in clear rule-breaking behavior that results in a ban anyways.

          • MarmiteLover123 [comrade/them, comrade/them]
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            Plus, if you and my bs detector are right, then Dragon Rider will end up doing with Dronerights did: engage in clear rule-breaking behavior that results in a ban anyways.

            You see that's where I disagree: if the admins are foolish enough to let an obvious troll like dronerights on the instance, they'll be allowed to engage in rule breaking behaviour without getting banned. Apparently the dragon user has already been banned from a few communities by moderators for rule breaking behaviour, but the admins are still allowing them on the instance. I think that you are vastly overestimating the Blahaj.zone admins competence, they have come up with some wild stuff over the years, people of NATO was just one of the highlights.

            Just look at this modlog of the dragon user. Apparently they have a history of "misgendering and encouraging suicide", yet they're still allowed on the instance? Pure incompetence not to site ban them. Apparently one of the entries in the log states that a "perm ban was heavy-handed"?!?!? So they're just going to let the dragon user roam freely on the instance after all that? Incredible stuff is happening on the internet. The admin post is all about respecting pronouns, to protect a user that doesn't do that themselves according to their own modlog history. Peak irony right there. Incredible stuff from the admin team.

            But if they want to set fire to their instance over supporting a troll that has been banned across Lemmy for racist behaviour and partaking in misgendering themselves, including on here, that's none of our business really. We as an instance have also made some really boneheaded decisions over the years.

    • buckykat [none/use name]
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      4 days ago

      I still don't think dronerights was a troll as such, just a genuine fucking weirdo with plenty of reactionary opinions. Like, I think it genuinely believes all the wild ass shit it claimed to believe.

  • gramxi [they/them]
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    5 days ago

    not surprised that a drama pervert like pugjesus is slobbering all over that thread

    • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]
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      5 days ago

      PJ is almost comically fed-coded, I have never seen a more blatant wrecker. They only support color revolutions and failed attempts as "true leftism," denouncing all AES and even the Black Panthers. They are one of the few people I blocked on my Lemmy.ml account.

    • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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      5 days ago

      They're the absolute worst, just terrible opinions all around and a massive condescending asshole about everything too.

  • Speaker [e/em/eir]
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    5 days ago

    Another reminder that your movement requires people constantly pushing the envelope to root out reactionaries. 🫡 to the dragon.

  • Acute_Engles [he/him, any]
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    5 days ago

    What is the impulse that causes people to think anyone wants to hear about the things they don't like?

    Simply don't engage if you think neopronouns are strange and let everyone else live their lives.

    spoiler

    I don't hold this opinion about neopronouns just thinking into the text field

    • shikitohno@lemm.ee
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      5 days ago

      Simply don’t engage if you think neopronouns are strange and let everyone else live their lives.

      Or just don't get hung up on the pronouns and evaluate their posts based on their content. If you don't care about what they post, no need to worry about their pronouns, and if you do want to respond, it's not that hard to work out.

      The thing I find most amusing of this whole drama is that that main people involved make up 50% of my block list for generally being annoying as hell, no matter what they're posting about. If we could get Flying Squid and the Media Bias bot from the .world news communities to weigh in, I could round out the whole list.

      Drag can do as drag wants, I'm not going to see it, so I don't care.

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