• RedArmor [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I just don’t get why the fuck it matters. Let people be straight, gay, trans, pan, ace, non-binary, or whatever. As long as it doesn’t hurt or oppress another, why does it matter??

    • EnglesProbably [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Because to TERFs, it does matter, they think if any other gender is brought into the zeitgeist, they are being ignored.

      Fucking recognize every gender and sexuality in this bitch, you're all beautiful. Fuck the status quo.

      • HighestDifficulty [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        TERF's are gross. Their constantly implying that if you can't be raped you're not a woman... which is just the most fucked up thing ever for so many reasons. There's a definate attitude amongst the laziest of capitalists that privilege's should come at the expense of hardship. It's the liberal currency.

        • EnglesProbably [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          TERFs are just insecure like super homophobic cis dudes. They justify their perspective any way they can. They feel marginalized because there is literally any other fucking gender in mainstream discussion. Insane.

      • weshallovercum [any]
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        4 years ago

        Ignored by who? Is it like an older sibling being jealous of the attention given to newborns?

    • Circra [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah I don't get it myself. I mean, going by science, history and anthropology and most importantly of all what trans people say gender and sexuality is way more diverse than a binary position and that should be recognised.

      Having said that I'm a straight working class man so, in the words of one really fucking obnoxious columnist for the poxy guardian I would basically do rape all the time if I thought I could get away with it. Clearly my total lack of empathy and emotional intelligence of a breezeblock is stopping me see some nuanced argument by these TERFs.

  • vermetel [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Cool how everyone assumes there are only four genders: Male, Female, Trans (a.k.a bearded guy in a dress) and Non-Binary (a.k.a. woman with short hair).

    • kristina [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      dont forget that nonbinary needs to have some sort of hair dye, maybe a piercing or two

  • empty_signifier [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    The most annoying part of how the cis treat nonbinary people as "diet woman" is how it always boils down to this garbage logic, like nonbinary people are just running from womanhood rather than experiencing something different.

      • Parysian [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Oh, yeah I saw people saying that and internalized the shit out of for a while. Bad times.

    • Speaker [e/em/eir]
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      4 years ago

      For my part, I tend to stay out of "trans and nonbinary" or "women and nonbinary" spaces and meetings because the few RL ones I've been to have subscribed to that same logic (with varying degrees of explicitness) and I don't need that kind of shit.

  • JayTwo [any]
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    4 years ago

    I mean, maybe it's because of the circles I'm in, but most of the women who outright told me they're "not like other girls" didn't mean it in the drama way.

    They meant that they consider themselves straight women, but they're also basically grown adult tomboys, so they don't feel like they can relate very well when they hang out with very feminine presenting women, and hate being in environments where they feel a pressure to present as "feminine", like when they get shamed by other women for not wearing makeup, not wearing enough, wearing men's clothes, etc.

    So, aside from other tomboys, they're uncomfortable maintaining a platonic relationship with straight men, as there's a sexual tension, with lesbian women, as there's a sexual tension, with other straight women, as they feel alienated and lookshamed, and usually wind up hanging around gay men the most.

    Reddit shits on the phrase, and I'm aware of the implied personality type, but most of my good female friends, including my best friend, usually describe themselves that way, or similar.

    I think if it were more common when they were younger, many of them would have instead identified as non binary, that way they could still admit an attraction to men while detaching a bit from the societal pressure to be "girly."

    • kristina [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      yeah im kinda a tomboy transgirl, i pass, and the pressure to go full femme is a bit maddening because staring at my face to put makeup on is one of my dysphoria inducers

      like sure i love makeup when its on but the whole act of it sucks so hard

    • Comrade_Crab [any]
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      4 years ago

      But she's a TERF, so it's also "Wow you do want to be a woman? Well, you just can't be lol!"

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      "Wow you want to be are a woman, ypu must also hate women."

      Yeet her into Cygnus x1

  • Grownbravy [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    “I’m not like other girls”

    well, to start I’m AMAB, and I still present Masc, so great observation.

  • Circra [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Hang on, I thought not like other girls meant 'tomboys' who were more into traditionally masculine stuff and didn't really like wearing dresses and that? Isn't it seriously insulting to nonbinary people to say that they're essentially rebranded tomboys? I mean sure, I imagine that some tomboys would have been nonbinary had it been a thing back when I was young but correct me if I am wrong there is a difference, right?

    For a bunch of self proclaimed feminists they sure do like controlling and discriminating people based on gender.

    • MarxistHedonism [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      I think the term “Not like other girls” refers specifically to women who put down other women. Like it’s similar to chuds calling people NPCs.

      They’re the ones like “I don’t have any female friends, they’re too much drama.” Or “she wears short skirts, I wear t-shirts”.

      My experience growing up was seeing this attitude more from cool girls and even pick-me’s than tomboys.

    • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      For a bunch of self proclaimed feminists they sure do like controlling and discriminating people based on gender.

      G E N D E R F A S H

    • JayTwo [any]
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      4 years ago

      There's a subset of them who are more like "I don't seek trouble, trouble seeks me" where it's more like, they're drama queens who always have to cast shade on other women. "All the other girls are *******, but not me."

      I've encountered that type before.

      But overwhelmingly, the women I've known who said they weren't like other girls, were tomboy types who felt shamed for not being "ladylike" enough when hanging out with other straight women.

  • kelptea [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    i keep thinking i've seen every shitty cis take, or that i would at least not be taken off-guard quite so bad. how foolish of me

  • RageQuittingLife [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Jesus christ, I'm gonna fucking :deeper-sadness: 🔫

    Absolutely painful. :agony-turbo: